PVI thinks big, also thanks to recent Kindle mania

Alexander Turcic · 11-21-2007, 11:42 AM

It's been a banner year for e-book lovers, with several dedicated reading devices entering the market (Sony Reader PRS-505, Cybook Gen3, and last but not least our long-prophesied Amazon Kindle). Less commonly known perhaps is the fact that Prime View International, one relatively small company from Taiwan, has been behind producing all the E Ink display panels for them. So we're not surprised that with all the frenzy about the Amazon Kindle, PVI also receives its earned share of news. According to Digitimes, quoting one of its sources:

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The new device from Amazon is the result of a three-year project between PVI and Amazon. With the new product finally ready for the market, PVI expects the market for electrophoretic displays (EPDs) and e-paper devices to further grow, added the sources.

The article also reaffirms what we've heard and stated several times before, namely that the next step on E Ink's roadmap is to further increase the level of grey scales and to introduce - hey, the guys do know how to make our wildest dreams come true! - color.

Also, in a related article Digitimes reported about recent rumors according to which PVI in the progress of acquiring another LCD maker's product lines to expand capacities.

[Thanks to Jae for the news!]

tribble · 11-21-2007, 11:51 AM

This is still a small market. I wonder what happens, once we see the competition producing aswell. Cant wiat till PlasticLogic starts producing in Dresden.

RWood · 11-21-2007, 12:11 PM

Color is nice, but for my money I would rather have a whiter white and a blacker black.

Jorgen · 11-21-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RWood

Color is nice, but for my money I would rather have a whiter white and a blacker black.

Yes, I agree with that. If it is 6", it is too small for science PDF books, so I just want to read novels on mine. However, the price will have to come down.

tribble · 11-21-2007, 12:54 PM

Hehe, we are talking about color e-ink including a whiter white and a blacker black

Gogolo · 11-21-2007, 03:24 PM

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Hehe, we are talking about color e-ink including a whiter white and a blacker black

Yes, and 14 Inches and 300dpi plus Video Support.

yvanleterrible · 11-21-2007, 03:36 PM

Eink computer monitors.

tribble · 11-21-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gogolo

Yes, and 14 Inches and 300dpi plus Video Support.

Well, drop the 300dpi and you have working prototypes in the labs. So they just got to work on the resolution

astra · 11-22-2007, 05:13 AM

I would prefer b/w 9.7" over colour 6" display. So, I can read PDFs and enjoy in general bigger screen.

Jadon · 11-22-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by astra_lestat

I would prefer b/w 9.7" over colour 6" display. So, I can read PDFs and enjoy in general bigger screen.

I'd go for 15-inch diagonal. That's what you really need to show letter-wide or A4-tall PDFs full-size. If someone would get around to making a convertible notebook that size, I'd buy one.

astra · 11-23-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadon

I'd go for 15-inch diagonal. That's what you really need to show letter-wide or A4-tall PDFs full-size. If someone would get around to making a convertible notebook that size, I'd buy one.

With 9.7" you will be able to read it full-size in landscape format

Jadon · 11-23-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by astra_lestat

With 9.7" you will be able to read it full-size in landscape format

I only got a B in algebra in high school (destroyed my grade point average), but I don't think so. Take a basic 3-4-5 right triangle and double the dimensions to get 6-8-10. That means that a 3:4 non-widescreen display with a 10-inch diagonal is only six by eight inches high/wide. Even in half-page landscape mode, that isn't quite wide enough for actual-size letter width at 8.5, nor even A4's 8.3 inches.

You can manage it if you multiply the 3-4-5 triangle by 2.2, giving a 6.6 by 8.8 screen with 11.5-inch diagonal. (Which means that 12.4-inch diagonal convertible notebooks, the largest size that seems to exist, can manage half-page mode.) But half-page mode can be annoying with comics, full-screen illustrations, or two-column text layout.

mocelet · 11-24-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jadon

That means that a 3:4 non-widescreen display with a 10-inch diagonal is only six by eight inches high/wide. Even in half-page landscape mode, that isn't quite wide enough for actual-size letter width at 8.5, nor even A4's 8.3 inches.

But if you cut the margins off, which are at least 0.5" per side in most cases, then Letter is 7.5" and A4 is 7.3", so it fits with space to spare. All you need is for the reader to automatically snip the margins.

astra · 11-24-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by astra_lestat

With 9.7" you will be able to read it full-size in landscape format

Sorry, when I said that, I meant half page

9.7" is very close to A5 - that's 1/2 of A4? So, in landscape you will get 1/2 of each page in full size.

nekokami · 11-27-2007, 12:48 PM

It's a nuisance to read some PDFs in landscape, because they have multiple columns. I'd rather be able to read the whole page at once.

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11-21-2007, 11:51 AM	#2
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	This is still a small market. I wonder what happens, once we see the competition producing aswell. Cant wiat till PlasticLogic starts producing in Dresden.

11-21-2007, 12:11 PM	#3
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	Color is nice, but for my money I would rather have a whiter white and a blacker black.

11-21-2007, 12:54 PM	#5
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	Hehe, we are talking about color e-ink including a whiter white and a blacker black

11-21-2007, 03:36 PM	#7
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Eink computer monitors.

11-22-2007, 05:13 AM	#9
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	I would prefer b/w 9.7" over colour 6" display. So, I can read PDFs and enjoy in general bigger screen.

11-27-2007, 12:48 PM	#15
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	It's a nuisance to read some PDFs in landscape, because they have multiple columns. I'd rather be able to read the whole page at once.