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Yep, maybe a bit like Burroughs Mars books or Bradbury's.... lots that is unbelievable but wonderful reads. Of course that is true of much if not most SF.
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Well, now...
True, you won't find any "coming of age", "life in a dysfunctional family", or "finding yourself through promiscuity," stories. But if you don't mind yourself some political metaphors, historical allegories, and the odd examination of the price of social conformity and statist dependency, you might find a few ideas worth debating with friends. (Which I've done.) The Honorverse is unabashedly space opera but it isn't *just* space opera. Part of what sets the series apart from other genres is that, much like Drake's RCN series, he has something to say about humanity, what drives people, and the choices people make, in between the space battles. Even the blackest of mustachio-twirling villains (of which there are a few) are driven by specific motivations, be they spite, greed, or ego. There may be larger than life figures and archetypes in there, but their motives should be recognizable to most; we see their like daily in both private and public life. Especially the villains, alas. |
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I really wish he would drop everything else and write another Empire of Man Novel.................or two.
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I second the dropping of Safehold for the Empire of Man...
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Personally, I want more Dahak, though not another Heirs of Empire, I liked the huge-scale space opera of the first two.
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It wasn't a bad book, it just didn't scratch the same itch as the other two. In fact, it felt very much like a dry run for Safehold.
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Underwhelming then, even more now. Obviously it's a theme that is important to him but developing it over ten volumes is simply diluting the (reader's) fun 10 times. And he is nowhere near making good on the promise of the first Safehold book. Safehold needed to be a generational saga, not an epochal war. It's turned into a slog. HEIRS isn't a bad book in itself; it is just the wrong story in the wrong series. The problem with HEIRS is that it takes a series that ran at breakneck pace and brings it to a total halt. For two volumes he'd been working off the Doc Smith playbook of exponential escalation and then he... stopped... halfway. The framework he established called for one thing and he went against it. It might have been workable if he'd kept on writing in the Imperium millieau and eventually gotten back on track but as is he might have been better off leaving well-enough alone. I think of it as Weber's VORTEX BLASTERS, a spinoff more than a core piece of the saga. And, unlike Smith, he's not finished the core saga. |
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