about Gen 3 battery life...

rheostaticsfan · 08-12-2008, 01:02 PM

I see there are options for length of time until auto-off. How fast will the battery drain if I leave it on "never" auto off then don't read? Is it likely to be fast? (like overnight? 24 hours? a few days? a week?)

I just got my unit today and I'm very excited by it. Already though there are at least 2 things I'd like to see changed in the software:
1) support for all the fields of the .mbp file. (title, author, subject, description, reading lists)
2) user options for margin size.

Jellby · 08-12-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rheostaticsfan

I see there are options for length of time until auto-off. How fast will the battery drain if I leave it on "never" auto off then don't read? Is it likely to be fast? (like overnight? 24 hours? a few days? a week?)

I've never tried that, but from previous reports, it seems between 2 and 4 days, depending on the firmware version.

Barcey · 08-12-2008, 05:44 PM

Tompe put a lot of effort in measuring the battery life between firmware versions.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Tompe

I was getting 4 full days of reading when I never powered off. I've set mine to auto power off after an hour but I turn it off when I'm not reading.

KLausPetersen · 08-13-2008, 07:13 AM

With the old firmware...

On "never" it works at least 4 days for me with about 5 hours actually reading in these days.

I often read only a few pages while waiting on something, or a quarter of an hour on the bus. It would be quite anoying to boot the device everytime I want to read just a few pages.

Thats also the reason I didn't try a new firmware yet, because the standby times seems to be a lot shorter with the newer firmwares.

Antonieb · 08-14-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rheostaticsfan

I see there are options for length of time until auto-off. How fast will the battery drain if I leave it on "never" auto off then don't read? Is it likely to be fast? (like overnight? 24 hours? a few days? a week?)

I just got my unit today and I'm very excited by it. Already though there are at least 2 things I'd like to see changed in the software:
1) support for all the fields of the .mbp file. (title, author, subject, description, reading lists)
2) user options for margin size.

It's a shame you will probably never see this features on this device..

HarryT · 08-14-2008, 11:38 AM

I think it's highly likely that we'll see user-settable margin sizes at some point in the future. Some other implementations of the Mobi Reader support it, so there's no reason in the world it couldn't be implemented on the Gen3.

rheostaticsfan · 08-14-2008, 01:36 PM

Yeah, Harry. That's why I'm all bothered about the .mbp information as well.

My Palm supports mobipocket reading lists (and title and author changes). If the Cybook would then it could totally handle large libraries. As it is, I only want to keep maybe 5 books in it at a time so I can navigate them easily.

It makes the 512M a bit of a waste.

Margins are also user selectable on my palm.

I figure if my little old palm can do all this with mobipocket there's no real reason the Cybook can't. It doesn't SEEM like there would be a hardware limitation...

HarryT · 08-15-2008, 03:00 AM

We're all agreed that a proper "folder tree" library view would enormously enhance navigation of large libraries, but I think it's a slight exageration to say that navigation is difficult with more than 5 books - don't you? I have about 260 books on my Gen3 at present (using about half the internal memory). I wouldn't want to have too many more than that, but with that many books, library navigation is "useable", especially with the 20 books per page view.

rheostaticsfan · 08-15-2008, 09:21 AM

5 is definitely being over conservative...but I wouldn't want anywhere near enough books to fill the 512M. I imagine maybe 100 would be my real practical limit.

For me, I'd rather have mobipocket "reading lists" than folder structure support. "Reading lists" are like tags. A book can belong to multiple reading lists.

I subscribe to the tagging rather than the filing philosophy for information (images, emails, books etc)

Support for BOTH "reading lists" and file folders would be optimal and allow users to work the way they want to.

tompe · 08-17-2008, 12:16 AM

To use the 20 view all books have to have cover you recognize.

HarryT · 08-17-2008, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

To use the 20 view all books have to have cover you recognize.

That's exactly why I do give every book that I create a "readable" cover!

peterbbb · 08-17-2008, 05:17 AM

Tags like Google has for email messages would be good.

Ortep · 08-17-2008, 01:51 PM

I think the use of tags would be enough. Just like almost any MP3 player does. Sort on 'album name', 'artist', 'song title' and 'genre'

For books it would be 'series' (For things like trilogies) 'Author', ' book title' and genre.

You don't need directories for that. Only software that is capable of reading the tags and sorting on that. It is standard in mobi type files. But Windows is quite capable of generating tags for any type of file like .doc or .rtf

I guess that linux would be able to do the same

I really don't care were on my Cybook the files are located. I also don't care were the files on my Creative Zen MP3 player are located. I find them by looking for an artist or a genre, not by browsing a directory structure

If that software arranges the files themselves in a treelike directory structure, one master directory or even one big 'database' like Oracle does not matter

peterbbb · 08-17-2008, 02:05 PM

Plus, user defined tags would be nice.

I might want to tag all the books I read on holiday, for example.

tompe · 08-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

That's exactly why I do give every book that I create a "readable" cover!

But that is to much work to do for every book you potentially want to read.

08-12-2008, 01:02 PM	#1
rheostaticsfan Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 591 Join Date: May 2008 Device: kindle, iOS, Blackberry, Sony DPT (pdfs)	about Gen 3 battery life... I see there are options for length of time until auto-off. How fast will the battery drain if I leave it on "never" auto off then don't read? Is it likely to be fast? (like overnight? 24 hours? a few days? a week?) I just got my unit today and I'm very excited by it. Already though there are at least 2 things I'd like to see changed in the software: 1) support for all the fields of the .mbp file. (title, author, subject, description, reading lists) 2) user options for margin size.

08-17-2008, 01:51 PM	#13
Ortep Fanatic Posts: 527 Karma: 470 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kindle Oasis	I think the use of tags would be enough. Just like almost any MP3 player does. Sort on 'album name', 'artist', 'song title' and 'genre' For books it would be 'series' (For things like trilogies) 'Author', ' book title' and genre. You don't need directories for that. Only software that is capable of reading the tags and sorting on that. It is standard in mobi type files. But Windows is quite capable of generating tags for any type of file like .doc or .rtf I guess that linux would be able to do the same I really don't care were on my Cybook the files are located. I also don't care were the files on my Creative Zen MP3 player are located. I find them by looking for an artist or a genre, not by browsing a directory structure If that software arranges the files themselves in a treelike directory structure, one master directory or even one big 'database' like Oracle does not matter Last edited by Ortep; 08-17-2008 at 01:55 PM.

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08-12-2008, 05:44 PM	#3
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	Tompe put a lot of effort in measuring the battery life between firmware versions. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=Tompe I was getting 4 full days of reading when I never powered off. I've set mine to auto power off after an hour but I turn it off when I'm not reading.

08-13-2008, 07:13 AM	#4
KLausPetersen Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 514 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Bookeen Cybook	With the old firmware... On "never" it works at least 4 days for me with about 5 hours actually reading in these days. I often read only a few pages while waiting on something, or a quarter of an hour on the bus. It would be quite anoying to boot the device everytime I want to read just a few pages. Thats also the reason I didn't try a new firmware yet, because the standby times seems to be a lot shorter with the newer firmwares.

08-14-2008, 11:38 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I think it's highly likely that we'll see user-settable margin sizes at some point in the future. Some other implementations of the Mobi Reader support it, so there's no reason in the world it couldn't be implemented on the Gen3.

08-14-2008, 01:36 PM	#7
rheostaticsfan Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 591 Join Date: May 2008 Device: kindle, iOS, Blackberry, Sony DPT (pdfs)	Yeah, Harry. That's why I'm all bothered about the .mbp information as well. My Palm supports mobipocket reading lists (and title and author changes). If the Cybook would then it could totally handle large libraries. As it is, I only want to keep maybe 5 books in it at a time so I can navigate them easily. It makes the 512M a bit of a waste. Margins are also user selectable on my palm. I figure if my little old palm can do all this with mobipocket there's no real reason the Cybook can't. It doesn't SEEM like there would be a hardware limitation...

08-15-2008, 03:00 AM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	We're all agreed that a proper "folder tree" library view would enormously enhance navigation of large libraries, but I think it's a slight exageration to say that navigation is difficult with more than 5 books - don't you? I have about 260 books on my Gen3 at present (using about half the internal memory). I wouldn't want to have too many more than that, but with that many books, library navigation is "useable", especially with the 20 books per page view.

08-15-2008, 09:21 AM	#9
rheostaticsfan Zealot Posts: 107 Karma: 591 Join Date: May 2008 Device: kindle, iOS, Blackberry, Sony DPT (pdfs)	5 is definitely being over conservative...but I wouldn't want anywhere near enough books to fill the 512M. I imagine maybe 100 would be my real practical limit. For me, I'd rather have mobipocket "reading lists" than folder structure support. "Reading lists" are like tags. A book can belong to multiple reading lists. I subscribe to the tagging rather than the filing philosophy for information (images, emails, books etc) Support for BOTH "reading lists" and file folders would be optimal and allow users to work the way they want to.

08-17-2008, 12:16 AM	#10
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	To use the 20 view all books have to have cover you recognize.

08-17-2008, 05:17 AM	#12
peterbbb BoyReader Posts: 151 Karma: 308 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llangollen, North Wales, UK Device: Cybook Gen3 and now Kindle 3	Tags like Google has for email messages would be good.

08-17-2008, 02:05 PM	#14
peterbbb BoyReader Posts: 151 Karma: 308 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llangollen, North Wales, UK Device: Cybook Gen3 and now Kindle 3	Plus, user defined tags would be nice. I might want to tag all the books I read on holiday, for example.

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