07-26-2006, 03:42 PM | #1 |
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Restrict access to this section?
First of all: I am not a big fan of this idea. But it seems iRex is closely watching us and trying to make our lives miserable by fixing any potential security exploit on the iLiad. So what do you think if we made this forum sections "invite-only", and gave access to everyone who is actively involved in hacking the iLiad? It would give us more time to examine our options, and when we come up with better solutions, we could present them to everyone in the other iLiad section(s).
I really don't like this. But it seems it's our better chance to stand against current and future iRex efforts to sabotage our work. |
07-26-2006, 04:01 PM | #2 |
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I don't like it, because I would like to honor that...
* ...they dared to sell us the unsecured device * ...they will provite a SDK for free * ...they seem to follow a reasonable approach so far But I would like to get them someone on this board and to broaden the "partnership". I really do not want them to perceive us as their enemies. From a distanced point of view I would also not say, that they sabotage our work. Because if you are honest: Wouldn't you have remove unprotected root access to a device now sold to "normal" users? I would have. I would suggest, that we kindly ask them to share their visions about root access and SDK. Maybe Alexander could initiate that? |
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07-26-2006, 04:07 PM | #3 |
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Here are my two cents:
We don't really want to restrict any parts of this forum. It's been a lot of fun so far, and I think we would only annoy our fellow readers if we'd do something like this. So that's really a no. I've been in contact with a developer from iRex. Although I promised not to say anything about it, I can say so much that I think iRex is currently not interested in participating in our hacking efforts. The guy is actually quite nice; but I think it's his company who doesn't want him to join us (for now). |
07-26-2006, 04:29 PM | #4 |
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Yap, no restrictions here.
Lets have fun trying to get back in. But seriously, i could wait for the SDK. |
07-27-2006, 02:47 AM | #5 | ||
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I do expect that some B2B customers have made their own security assessments, and reported their findings to iRex. And I do very much expect iRex to have asked a third party to do a full independent assessment by now: it's just the thing to hand over to propsective customers concerned with security. It tends to be that way: a service is developed, prospective customers want assurance that the service is secure, and the developers call in independent experts to do that evaluation. If everyone are serious, vulnerability reporting is made -- and I have been looking very eagerly for the first Bugtraq or Secunia report about the iLiad. As none has appeared, I suspect that noone involved here has made any vulnerability reports to iRex. But I may be too hasty. Quote:
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07-27-2006, 03:31 AM | #6 | |
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The second isue is the pdf. It is not actually a sabotage but a bug: if they do not react to hotlinks, they are not following the full pdf specifications; and there are a lot of pdfs having jumps to the footnotes and back and similar, such kind of pdf will we problematic in the iRex reader. Of course if they allow pdf-originated jumps, they have problems to control the page number. But a swift approach would be to patch the xpdf itself to output the current page number. The 2.4 OS took control of user input over after some button was pressed; now the 2.5 takes control before, at visualisation time. As for the question of this thread: the answer, if we are advocating for free software (with 'free' in the sense of freedom, the four freedoms and all that), the logical answer is a 'no'; the whole point is that the adventages of open development largely outweight any potential disadventage (furthermore in this particular case, where hardware patents protect iRex, one can not see how potential disadventages apply, but that should be another history to discuss). Last edited by arivero; 07-27-2006 at 03:44 AM. |
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07-27-2006, 05:18 AM | #7 | |
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i wonder what irex require to get the extended SDK?
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07-27-2006, 05:40 AM | #8 | |
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07-27-2006, 05:43 AM | #9 |
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I am happy with the unextended it the API is explained. Extended should include support, emulation and all that.
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