Nexus 7: Is lack of SD card port a deal breaker for you? - Page 17

HarryT · 07-12-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

There's like 2 or 3 Android device companies who haven't caved to Microsoft's extortion and paid up for a license they don't actually need to buy, so finding a tablet that doesn't pay Microsoft is going to be difficult.

They may not NEED to pay Microsoft (for FAT file system support) but it's a very useful thing to have on a tablet if you do want to read external storage media.

tompe · 07-12-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

There's like 2 or 3 Android device companies who haven't caved to Microsoft's extortion and paid up for a license they don't actually need to buy, so finding a tablet that doesn't pay Microsoft is going to be difficult.

I really hope they do not pay for the FAT in Nexus 7 since it does not uses FAT in any way.

HarryT · 07-12-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

I really hope they do not pay for the FAT in Nexus 7 since it does not uses FAT in any way.

... which is of course one of the reasons that it offers neither an SD card slot, nor USB-OTG mass storage support. Someone earlier in the thread said, if memory serves me correctly, that the FAT licence fee is 25c per device? That's a very small price indeed to pay for the ability to be able to used external storage media.

ApK · 07-12-2012, 10:45 AM

They have the option of using a different file system, thought the mass confusion that would ensue would probably cost a lot more than the licensing. But if they want to stand on priniciple...!

HarryT · 07-12-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ApK

They have the option of using a different file system, thought the mass confusion that would ensue would probably cost a lot more than the licensing. But if they want to stand on priniciple...!

I wonder if it will even be able to access FAT-formatted WiFi storage media like the NAS that Tommy mentioned? Or is remote file access "file-system agnostic"? Not something I've ever given a thought to before.

tompe · 07-12-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

... which is of course one of the reasons that it offers neither an SD card slot, nor USB-OTG mass storage support. Someone earlier in the thread said, if memory serves me correctly, that the FAT licence fee is 25c per device? That's a very small price indeed to pay for the ability to be able to used external storage media.

Well, but that was not the reason at all according to the postings I cited. The guy I cited said that this was just an unimportant side effect.

tompe · 07-12-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I wonder if it will even be able to access FAT-formatted WiFi storage media like the NAS that Tommy mentioned? Or is remote file access "file-system agnostic"? Not something I've ever given a thought to before.

They are accessible using samba or maybe nfs also. So the file system does not matter.

heySkippy · 07-12-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

Especially considering that we (the users) could easily have this included for the same price.

Keep telling yourself that.

ApK · 07-12-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I wonder if it will even be able to access FAT-formatted WiFi storage media like the NAS that Tommy mentioned? Or is remote file access "file-system agnostic"? Not something I've ever given a thought to before.

Yeah, what tompe said.

HarryT · 07-12-2012, 12:09 PM

Thanks. I thought it probably was, but better to ask.

murraypaul · 07-12-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Gumby

There's like 2 or 3 Android device companies who haven't caved to Microsoft's extortion and paid up for a license they don't actually need to buy, so finding a tablet that doesn't pay Microsoft is going to be difficult.

Even leaving aside the FAT license, almost all Android manufacturers are paying Microsoft for patent licenses for technologies (Microsoft say are) included in Android, so it really will be difficult to avoid sending money Microsoft's way

JD Gumby · 07-12-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

Even leaving aside the FAT license, almost all Android manufacturers are paying Microsoft for patent licenses for technologies (Microsoft say are) included in Android, so it really will be difficult to avoid sending money Microsoft's way

Those're the ones I meant - only a couple companies who make Android devices haven't caved yet on those.

LarryT63 · 07-12-2012, 05:43 PM

what I'm saying is. unless you are on an extended vacation, how much video do you need to carry, before you go home and sync or download another movie(s) to replace it/them?

ApK · 07-12-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryT63

what I'm saying is. unless you are on an extended vacation, how much video do you need to carry, before you go home and sync or download another movie(s) to replace it/them?

The answer will vary per person. That's kind of the point.
Do you realize the subtext of a question phrased the way is "I know the right answer is the amount I want, and anyone with a different answer is wrong."

And if you search the forums, you'll see I've asked the same question.

HansTWN · 07-12-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

At some point you are going to have to move beyond the belief that everyone who doesn't share your values is stupid.
There are many people who actually don't care about it.
Now because big bad Apple has clouded their minds, just because it isn't something they care about.

Getting less but not paying less, what a great deal

. You really got me there. How could I miss that?

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07-12-2012, 10:45 AM	#244
ApK Award-Winning Participant Posts: 7,318 Karma: 67930154 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle	They have the option of using a different file system, thought the mass confusion that would ensue would probably cost a lot more than the licensing. But if they want to stand on priniciple...!

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks. I thought it probably was, but better to ask.

07-12-2012, 05:43 PM	#253
LarryT63 Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: Sony PRS 505	what I'm saying is. unless you are on an extended vacation, how much video do you need to carry, before you go home and sync or download another movie(s) to replace it/them?