Which reader best for PDF

davidw89 · 02-24-2008, 05:04 PM

I read fiction + non fiction (legal free ones from site that distributes it freely) books that are all on ebook. I don't mind converting to another format as long as it ain't a hassle.
I need a ebook reader that will do this for me.
Basically, top e-ink technology that won't hurt your eyes.
I like the Sony but don't like the restrictions on it..
I don't need mp3/wifi etc that will inflate the prices of an ebook reader...need a cheap no frill one..would sony be my best buy?
What i do not like is on the review how when you flick through pages the screen blanks out for 1/2 a second/...that is soo annoying

JSWolf · 02-24-2008, 06:06 PM

The best reader for reading the average non-DRM PDF is the iRex iLiad due to higher resolution, larger screen size, and better software available for reading PDF.

HarryT · 02-25-2008, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by davidw89

I read fiction + non fiction (legal free ones from site that distributes it freely) books that are all on ebook. I don't mind converting to another format as long as it ain't a hassle.
I need a ebook reader that will do this for me.
Basically, top e-ink technology that won't hurt your eyes.
I like the Sony but don't like the restrictions on it..
I don't need mp3/wifi etc that will inflate the prices of an ebook reader...need a cheap no frill one..would sony be my best buy?

As Jon says, the iLiad is really the only sensible choice if A4/Letter PDFs are important to you. They just cannot be displayed well on a device with a 6" screen such as the Sony, Gen3, etc.

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What i do not like is on the review how when you flick through pages the screen blanks out for 1/2 a second/...that is soo annoying

Have you actually SEEN an eInk reader yourself, "in the flesh"? You'd be the only person I've ever met who finds it "annoying" having actually seen it! You'd be amazed at how many people jump to ill-informed conclusions based on what they read in "reviews", very few of which are written by people who've USED the device for any length of time.

Hadrien · 02-25-2008, 04:53 AM

I agree with HarryT, the black screen when you turn the page isn't annoying at all... you get used to it VERY quickly.

ProfJulie · 02-25-2008, 11:09 AM

I saw a demo on uTube of the Cybook and that was the criticism that reviewer had. Such a small thing to pick out for such a great device. I hardly even notice the screen change. It's amazing how some reviewers single that out as a big deal.

mikecook · 02-25-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidw89

What i do not like is on the review how when you flick through pages the screen blanks out for 1/2 a second/...that is soo annoying

It's just the same as what happens with a p-book. Personally, I don't look at the [paper] page when I'm turning it, therefore it also blanks out ;-)

JSWolf · 02-25-2008, 01:17 PM

David, if you find the back for 1/2 sec to be annoying, then you won't like ANY eink device. Sorry, but you'll have to look for something else. They all do it and always will.

Vesper · 02-26-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

David, if you find the back for 1/2 sec to be annoying, then you won't like ANY eink device. Sorry, but you'll have to look for something else. They all do it and always will.

I'm not sure about other readers, but with CyB you can choose either blink or gradual transition. I tried both and remained with blink

DrS

davidw89 · 02-28-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The best reader for reading the average non-DRM PDF is the iRex iLiad due to higher resolution, larger screen size, and better software available for reading PDF.

Great device but it retails for $1000 AUD here :/..and it has some stuff i don't need like wifi..any chance of a more affordable product, something like $300-$400AUD?

Wait so if i get the Sony one it wont read PDF properly even if i convert it?

gwynevans · 02-28-2008, 05:29 PM

It'll read PDF as well as any other 6" eInk display will, which is only "properly" if you've re-authored it to a suitable page size, otherwise it'll be trying to display an A4/Letter page in a ~A6 area.

If you can get convert them to HTML or RTF, then they can easily be converted to a reflowing format which works well, but if only PDF, no, not well.

(Note the cost of the screen has a major impact on the cost of device.)

JSWolf · 02-28-2008, 06:51 PM

You can try pdflrf to convert the PDF to something easier to read But if that will be good enough or not, I cannot say. But it does make the PDF better. But better enough is up to you.

DMcCunney · 02-28-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by davidw89

Wait so if i get the Sony one it wont read PDF properly even if i convert it?

Convert to what? Sony's LRF format?

If you can do a decent conversion, that's an option, but many PDFs convert poorly if at all.
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Dennis

davidw89 · 03-06-2008, 03:41 AM

No convert it to pdflrf

ranma172 · 10-15-2008, 09:39 AM

Hello,

I'm also interested in an e-ink reader for PDF's.

I know there are readers that let you read PDF's in landscape mode but, are they good enough?

Which one would you recommend?

I don't mind scrolling down. The most important thing is that I can read PDF's without any problem (directly or through conversion).

I'd buy the Iliad but I think it's too heavy (and expensive). There are (cheaper) readers around 7 ounces (=200 grams) or less.

(Note: I know PDF's were designed for printing, but they are too popular; I have lots of documents in that format.)

Thank you very much,
ranMa

DDHarriman · 10-15-2008, 11:33 AM

Hi

I’m sorry, but you say you have a Cybook - is this true or are you just thinking in getting one?

If you have it, haven’t you tested it with Pdf already?
If not and if you want an example with the Cybook check this post: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30562
It gives an idea of what to expect.

To recommend: would recommend the Iliad, and if not the Cybook but with the Pdf reflow text of the Sony as an option (besides it’s own zoom), so one could choose what way he/she would like to use… of course this second option does not exist today…

Best regards,

02-24-2008, 05:04 PM	#1
davidw89 Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: none atm	Which reader best for PDF I read fiction + non fiction (legal free ones from site that distributes it freely) books that are all on ebook. I don't mind converting to another format as long as it ain't a hassle. I need a ebook reader that will do this for me. Basically, top e-ink technology that won't hurt your eyes. I like the Sony but don't like the restrictions on it.. I don't need mp3/wifi etc that will inflate the prices of an ebook reader...need a cheap no frill one..would sony be my best buy? What i do not like is on the review how when you flick through pages the screen blanks out for 1/2 a second/...that is soo annoying

10-15-2008, 09:39 AM	#14
ranma172 Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: cybook gen3	Hello, I'm also interested in an e-ink reader for PDF's. I know there are readers that let you read PDF's in landscape mode but, are they good enough? Which one would you recommend? I don't mind scrolling down. The most important thing is that I can read PDF's without any problem (directly or through conversion). I'd buy the Iliad but I think it's too heavy (and expensive). There are (cheaper) readers around 7 ounces (=200 grams) or less. (Note: I know PDF's were designed for printing, but they are too popular; I have lots of documents in that format.) Thank you very much, ranMa Last edited by ranma172; 10-15-2008 at 10:47 AM.

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02-24-2008, 06:06 PM	#2
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The best reader for reading the average non-DRM PDF is the iRex iLiad due to higher resolution, larger screen size, and better software available for reading PDF.

02-25-2008, 04:53 AM	#4
Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	I agree with HarryT, the black screen when you turn the page isn't annoying at all... you get used to it VERY quickly.

02-25-2008, 11:09 AM	#5
ProfJulie Evangelist Posts: 423 Karma: 890 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Device: whatever	I saw a demo on uTube of the Cybook and that was the criticism that reviewer had. Such a small thing to pick out for such a great device. I hardly even notice the screen change. It's amazing how some reviewers single that out as a big deal.

02-25-2008, 01:17 PM	#7
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	David, if you find the back for 1/2 sec to be annoying, then you won't like ANY eink device. Sorry, but you'll have to look for something else. They all do it and always will.

02-28-2008, 05:29 PM	#10
gwynevans Wizzard Posts: 1,402 Karma: 2000000 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: iPad 2, iPhone 6s, Kindle Voyage & Kindle PaperWhite	It'll read PDF as well as any other 6" eInk display will, which is only "properly" if you've re-authored it to a suitable page size, otherwise it'll be trying to display an A4/Letter page in a ~A6 area. If you can get convert them to HTML or RTF, then they can easily be converted to a reflowing format which works well, but if only PDF, no, not well. (Note the cost of the screen has a major impact on the cost of device.)

02-28-2008, 06:51 PM	#11
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	You can try pdflrf to convert the PDF to something easier to read But if that will be good enough or not, I cannot say. But it does make the PDF better. But better enough is up to you.

03-06-2008, 03:41 AM	#13
davidw89 Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: none atm	No convert it to pdflrf

10-15-2008, 11:33 AM	#15
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Hi I’m sorry, but you say you have a Cybook - is this true or are you just thinking in getting one? If you have it, haven’t you tested it with Pdf already? If not and if you want an example with the Cybook check this post: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30562 It gives an idea of what to expect. To recommend: would recommend the Iliad, and if not the Cybook but with the Pdf reflow text of the Sony as an option (besides it’s own zoom), so one could choose what way he/she would like to use… of course this second option does not exist today… Best regards,

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