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View Poll Results: File Manager? | |||
I'd like to have it! | 53 | 37.59% | |
I am using search function. | 21 | 14.89% | |
I use shelves. | 53 | 37.59% | |
I'd like to have collections. | 13 | 9.22% | |
I don't need it. | 59 | 41.84% | |
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06-15-2013, 12:53 AM | #31 | ||||
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As things stand today, I agree that Kobo does a very poor job at managing large libraries. Assuming that you use shelves, I would argue that anyone browsing through more than a thousand books is going to hate Kobo's software. If you're creating the shelves using Kobo's software, you're probably going to hate them if you're managing more than a hundred books. So yes, there is definite room for improvement. I just don't think that directories are the best way for Kobo to solve the problem. Something like saved searches and making better use of the available metadata, certainly. |
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06-15-2013, 01:24 AM | #32 | ||
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From the shelf manage screen, you can do a search of all the books and select from the result. It would be good to have an "select all" on the results list. A few people have mentioned the idea of a "unshelved shelf:, but I've never seen the point. All my shelves have a reason: SciFi, a particular series, Test Samples etc. Not being on a shelf just means that. Of course, for real books, that would mean they are lying around on the floor. And yes, they are Quote:
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06-15-2013, 01:26 AM | #33 | |
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Why? Kobo database already coexists just fine with file manager, the only thing that would be different for user- is ability to see their file structure from reader and browse it, it is not even necessary to have any file/folder creating or moving abilities from the reader itself. it is all comes down to using your desktop with faster processor and bigger monitor to deal with organizing library, it does not matter much how, as long as it is not tediously tapping 100+ pages for each book, or having to mark each of them manually. And in case of someone who already has a collection organized, they can just request not to even put them into a database, just use the books as is. Which should not at all encumber other readers choices about search, shelves and facebook and twitter support. As it is now it seems Kobo does a lot that some people don't need, thus making them wait needlessly, and not giving them an easy tool to avoid all the shelving headaches. Though so far it seems people who would like a file manager are in minority. Which does not invalidate the idea. |
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06-15-2013, 02:10 AM | #34 | ||||
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... but not always. Try adding books by FTPing into a modded Kobo device and you'll find that reboot is necessary in order to detect the new books. Quote:
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For the most part, I probably agree with you on a personal level. I like bypassing the cruft and getting down to business. For me, the filesystem does that well. I just don't think that serves Kobo's business model very well, since that model probably depends upon both readers who probably lack basic tech skills and their bookstore. |
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06-15-2013, 03:06 AM | #35 |
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I think the only point here is that if you are viewing your library by shelves, books that are not included in any shelves aren't shown, and if you viewing library by books to get to those, you are presented with long list, where as my luck would have it those unshelved ones would be on the last page.
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06-15-2013, 03:20 AM | #36 | |
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All I am saying there is room for both. File manager is a poor man's library organization, when sophisticated tools have not yet caught up. But until they do, why not have a useful tool? P.S. I thought of a compromise- have everything as is for Kobo books, give people a choice for sideloaded books- to process into database or not, and give ability to see them in file manager. And process sideloaded books into database either on user command or book by book on opening. Then everyone can have their cake and eat it too. Last edited by theonna; 06-15-2013 at 04:02 AM. |
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06-15-2013, 04:07 AM | #37 |
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I am using a hierarchical directory structure on T2, but I never have to browse very far.
I am always in Cool Reader. So I am reading a book. Then I click on a hardware button where I have "Recent Books" conveniently mapped. The list (or rather the stack) of last opened books appears. Here I can switch to another book, as I like reading many books at once. But also I can get directly to the actual directory of any book on the list. If I want to open a new book, I don't have to navigate very far, I can choose where to start. Or in a case of the next book in the series of the same author - no navigation required. So the thing I really want in a file manager: a stack (of unlimited length) of last read books, and the possibility to get from it to the folder of any book in it. However, even if there is no file manager, I hope that at least the list of last opened books of an unlimited length is available on Aura right now? For example, if the list of all the books can be sorted by the time they were last opened. It is certainly possible even on not rooted T2. Such a list is needed to be able to read many books and switch between them. If you only have several last opened books on the home screen (desktop), or even a list of 30 books (as on PB902) - it is not enough. On PB, I have to count how many books I still can open without losing a book from that list of 30 and then perhaps forgetting that I am still reading it Last edited by parkher; 06-15-2013 at 04:21 AM. |
06-15-2013, 04:27 AM | #38 | |
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The home screen also shows these books plus other recently accessed tasks. These can be dismissed from the home screen or fall of after other tasks/books are opened. The home screen can hold nine books. I think this will work for you. |
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06-15-2013, 04:51 AM | #39 |
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I like to keep all my books on my reader, you never know :-)
My first reader was a Pocketbook, so was the second, and they all have a filebrowser, whose depth limit, if there is one, I've never hit. So when I got a Mini I was initially very disappointed to find there is no filebrowser. However after overcoming the initial shock and horror, I've come to quite prefer shelves: with this I can "tag" a book multiple times, whereas with a filebrowser I would need multiple copies of the same book. As search is very quick in the Mini, I have ended up actually preferring the shelves when it comes to managing books. A file browser is still very handy to see/edit what else is in the device (e.g. if you look at the hacks in the developers' forum, there is a text editor with which you can for instance modify .ini files) |
06-15-2013, 12:59 PM | #40 | |||
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For the few non-English books I have, I edit the metadata to give me a transliterated/Anglicized author and title. Calibre works very well for doing this in bulk if need be. Quote:
Given that Kobo purchased .kepubs are stored in a single directory with a hex string as the file name, it would take a fairly major rewrite to change to a directory based file oriented system. Minor correction: if I fill the internal storage on my Kobo, it will start storing .kepubs purchased from the Kobo store in a directory on the uSD card. I don't purchase enough books from there to make this an issue except when I was testing and filled the internal card just to see what would happen. Regards, David |
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06-15-2013, 01:49 PM | #41 |
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There is a calibre catalog generater plugin by Greg Riker called Calalog_CSV_XML. Has anyone used it?
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06-15-2013, 02:07 PM | #42 | |
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It takes awhile for it to complete, not unbearably long though, but the file output size is huge. Depending on how the comments section was formatted, you might find odd characters scattered throughout that may annoy you (I think it comes from some spaces in the descriptive comments), and text size isn't always consistent, it will be whatever was used in the comments for each book. But it does work to give you a complete listing of all your books with a nice index at the beginning. It wouldn't replace using shelves for me though on the Kobo, or collections on the Sonys. But you should give it a try in all the formats possible to see if it might suit your needs for some cataloging purpose. Edit: The odd character you'll find is a black diamond with a white question mark inside. Last edited by Ripplinger; 06-15-2013 at 03:16 PM. |
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06-15-2013, 02:29 PM | #43 |
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I don't actually need this, but I belileve someone wrote about using and editing an xml file on the kindle device and liking that.
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06-15-2013, 03:49 PM | #44 | |
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06-16-2013, 11:28 PM | #45 |
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Kindle collections are written in one file on the device, so you can create that file on your computer and then transfer it to you KIndle, this way creating your collections faster. On Kobo all recordings go through database, so this way would be impossible.
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