06-13-2013, 05:39 PM | #16 |
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I've said before that if I didn't already enjoy reading going in, school would have destroyed the hobby for me.
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06-13-2013, 07:22 PM | #17 | |
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Anyway, Tolkien quote... “Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!” ~J.R.R.T. |
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06-13-2013, 07:46 PM | #18 |
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I've read Anais Nin, Gore Vidal, Norman Mailer, and James Joyce. Boring, boring, boring. Would rather read an Alcott, Tolkien, or Rowling any day.
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06-14-2013, 05:10 AM | #19 |
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Humph.
As somebody wrote in the comments, worst problem is kids not reading at all, than kids reading fantasy. This article is full of mumbo-jumbo. By its logic, anybody over 20 has no place reading YA. Yeah right. |
06-14-2013, 10:40 AM | #20 | |
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Bear in mind that I haven't read The Hunger Games series, its on my TBR pile, but from what I get the contents are not quite for elementary students. I would feel somewhat more comfortable giving those books to middle school students. So on one hand there is the difficulty level, and on the other hand there is contents level In the end, I see reading better than not reading, whatever one is reading. It's not easy to start the habit of reading. |
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06-14-2013, 01:52 PM | #21 | |
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Elementary = Kindergarten and 1-6 Jr High = 7,8 High School = 9-12 You begin Kindergarten between 4-6 yrs old, depending on your birthdate, etc. I was 4. |
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06-14-2013, 01:56 PM | #22 |
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The one I work for goes like this:
Elementary -> K-5 Middle Schol -> 6-8 High School 9-12 With some high schools keeping their freshmen in a separate wing. The Christian school I went to did it like this: Kindergarten Elementary -> 1-3 Middle -> 4-6 Jr.High -> 7 & 8 High -> 9-12 |
06-14-2013, 02:52 PM | #23 |
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Thank you Twowheels (like that name ) and teh603.
I see now why I'm so confused. The whole thing is confusing! So to be safe, one should be around 9-11 when in fifth-grade. Still, I wouldn't give The Hunger Games books, with teenagers having to fight to the death, at someone who's 9 (of course, each child is different) |
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06-16-2013, 06:14 PM | #25 | |
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Anyway, my daughter has an interesting personality that involves a love of macabre, and so she is not put off by darkness and violence, but a lot of kids in the 9 to 11 age range would have trouble with the Hunger Games books. I think people should read the books they like. Once upon a time, the classics were just popular books. |
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06-16-2013, 09:15 PM | #26 | |
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It's also a bit unfair to paint public schools with the same brush, since there are good ones you know. |
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06-16-2013, 09:33 PM | #27 |
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I think reading (text based book) is what is important. Reading Anything.
A lot of what was required left me cold and I would read other stuff in class. The instructor got mad and gave me a reading test: 800WPM and 89% comprehension (twice as fast an the next highest in the class AND I exceeded their comprehension by 20%) . He did not believe the results and gave another test with similar results. After that, I was mostly left alone |
06-16-2013, 10:09 PM | #28 |
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I don't know if it's very useful to compare today's high school students to those of 100 years ago. In 1913 only about half the students went on to high school at all. My own grandfather left school at 8th grade.
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06-16-2013, 10:18 PM | #29 |
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In my elementary school, beginning with the third grade, IIRC, we used the SRA Reading Laboratory system for our reading lessons. I remember really enjoying that because we read at our own pace, the stories were never more than four pages so they weren't that long and they were on a variety of topics, and the comprehension tests were like playing. The segments were color-coded and when you finished all of the stories in one segment you moved on to another color. I always reached further in the color levels than my classmates because I read faster. I think that system encouraged my love for reading, because it introduced different genres to me and also introduced me to non-fiction.
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06-17-2013, 12:31 AM | #30 | |
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I found a lot of fairy tales to be mildly unsettling, but I had friends whose greatest delight was making up scary stories. By grade 5 I had waded through Hamlet and Macbeth and while I didn't understand it all I sure understood the gory parts A great part of children's literature is classified as horror and seems to be selling well. And many 10 year olds have seen every Saws episode there is and seem to take great glee in the fact. Cannot say I entirely approve, but do we do the children/young adults a service by wrapping them up in cotton wool. Helen |
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