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Old 02-18-2011, 11:26 AM   #27796
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I know this is a mistake, but if I don't say it, I can't sleep.
When I found this place, I thought maybe now, I won't have to be so alone.
That I could learn how to be social.
Have friends.
Talk to people.
I never really have before. In 47 years.
I did learn things.
My opinion doesn't matter.
People can be mad at me, but I'm not allowed to be mad at them.
That I am nothing, to be tossed aside without thought.
That there are no friends and no place for me in the virtual world either.
I never hid the fact that I don't communicate well.
I only talk to a dog.
I just wish I never found this place.
Because losing it because I am who I am hurts.
I never meant to bring anyone else pain.
I just wanted to be a part of the world too.
I know what happens now.
I am sorry.

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I don't have the same experience with Recluse as the other members on the forum, but it made me very sad to read his post. I keep thinking about it.
Does anyone know: is it possible for him to come back to the forum?
I'm thinking of a kind of probation; after a serious talk with him?
Or are there too many hurt feelings among the forum? I realize that I don't know much of the troubles he caused.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:26 PM   #27797
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I don't have the same experience with Recluse as the other members on the forum, but it made me very sad to read his post. I keep thinking about it.
Does anyone know: is it possible for him to come back to the forum?
It is not. It was a permanent ban, by a unanimous decision of the entire MR moderating team.

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I'm thinking of a kind of probation; after a serious talk with him? Or are there too many hurt feelings among the forum? I realize that I don't know much of the troubles he caused.
He's a troubled soul, subject to violent mood swings. He's "Doctor Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde." When he's up, he can be witty and even brilliant. When he's down, he can be very badly behaved. It reached the point where some MR members didn't want to visit MR because they were afraid of him and didn't want to be in the same forums. This is simply not acceptable.

He always apologized afterward for bad behavior, but he always did it again.

I hope for his own sake that he finds doctors he can trust and a treatment regimen that will help him achieve balance. But meanwhile, his problems are his responsibility to deal with. MR is not his therapy group, and it was not fair to the rest of the MR community to be subjected to Mr. Hyde.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:37 PM   #27798
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Reading this thread and rubbing my feet... Is that too much info? lolo
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Old 02-18-2011, 01:12 PM   #27799
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Errm...yes, it is
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Old 02-18-2011, 02:15 PM   #27801
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It is not. It was a permanent ban, by a unanimous decision of the entire MR moderating team.

He's a troubled soul, subject to violent mood swings. He's "Doctor Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde." When he's up, he can be witty and even brilliant. When he's down, he can be very badly behaved. It reached the point where some MR members didn't want to visit MR because they were afraid of him and didn't want to be in the same forums. This is simply not acceptable.

He always apologized afterward for bad behavior, but he always did it again.

I hope for his own sake that he finds doctors he can trust and a treatment regimen that will help him achieve balance. But meanwhile, his problems are his responsibility to deal with. MR is not his therapy group, and it was not fair to the rest of the MR community to be subjected to Mr. Hyde.
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Thank you for explaining this to me.
I agree with you that it cannot be so, that other members are scared to visit MR because of the postings of a person. That is not acceptable; of course.

I find it so sad to see another person suffer; even if he himself has caused it.

I just wish there could be a way to give this person another chance, without hurting the feelings of the other members of the forum.
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Old 02-18-2011, 02:22 PM   #27802
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I agree to missing the good side of Jon. (as well as occasionally being scared by his other side). How does one host or create a forum -- and is there a cost? I wonder if some subset of us could chat on a FOR (Friends of Recluse) chat list. Not as a subset of MR; I mean a whole other place. I don't know how they are started or run, but somebody here might have ideas?
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:06 PM   #27803
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I agree to missing the good side of Jon. (as well as occasionally being scared by his other side). How does one host or create a forum -- and is there a cost? I wonder if some subset of us could chat on a FOR (Friends of Recluse) chat list. Not as a subset of MR; I mean a whole other place. I don't know how they are started or run, but somebody here might have ideas?
Create a Google Group. It functions as a mailing list with a web based interface, so people can read and reply in email or with a browser.

I created and administer two such groups. Mine are invitational and moderated, and do not appear in the public groups listing. You can set one up, give the URL, and folks who want to join can request admittance in email.

See https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!overview for information.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:02 PM   #27804
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I agree to missing the good side of Jon. (as well as occasionally being scared by his other side). How does one host or create a forum -- and is there a cost? I wonder if some subset of us could chat on a FOR (Friends of Recluse) chat list. Not as a subset of MR; I mean a whole other place. I don't know how they are started or run, but somebody here might have ideas?
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Create a Google Group. It functions as a mailing list with a web based interface, so people can read and reply in email or with a browser.

I created and administer two such groups. Mine are invitational and moderated, and do not appear in the public groups listing. You can set one up, give the URL, and folks who want to join can request admittance in email.

See https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!overview for information.
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Thank you! I've done exactly that. If you want to join this chat group, send your email address to " BadGoodDebi at gmail.com" and I'll send you an "invitation" that you have to click on to join. Jon -- I'm hoping you will join too, otherwise this is sort of a waste!

P.S. If you want to send your MR name too, I'll recognize who you are.

P.P.S. We need more people, cuz *I'm* not much of a talker.

P.P.P.S. JON if you see this, here's how YOU can get there:
go to googlegroups.com
sign in as <no longer listed here>
password is <no longer listed here>
on the right of my page (who knows where on a kindle) find BOLD PRINT that says
"FriendsOfRecluse" and it's a link to the group
Add a post to the group to talk. If prefer to do it in a mail window, toto GMAIL instead. Just reply to mail. - Deb

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:41 PM   #27805
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Thank you! I've done exactly that. If you want to join this chat group, send your email address to "BadGoodDebi at gmail.com" and I'll send you an "invitation" that you have to click on to join. Jon -- I'm hoping you will join too, otherwise this is sort of a waste!

P.S. If you want to send your MR name too, I'll recognize who you are.

P.P.S. We need more people, cuz *I'm* not much of a talker.

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What a good idea, Deb!

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recluse does not have a computer! He was posting on a Kindle. Do you think he will be able to access the group?
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I haven't used a Kindle browser so am not sure, but if he can access MR I am pretty sure he can access a Google group.
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Personally, I never believed that he was the tortured soul he kept portraying himself as. I always got the impression he was taking us all for a ride. I still think that's the case.

However, if it is true, I hope he gets the help he needs.
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I have a Kindle and it isn't the best browserexperience ( black/white, 6 inch) but I can access every site I want, but I won't as I have my iPad for mobile browsing. But it is doable.
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I haven't used a Kindle browser so am not sure, but if he can access MR I am pretty sure he can access a Google group.
Correct. The Kindle uses a port of the Access NetFront browser, a product intended for embedded use like that. It's not Firefox, but it should be able to access a Google Group.
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