SOD FIXED

GJSmith · 07-18-2012, 01:16 PM

I am posting this in a new thread to make it more visible.
I did the battery disconnect as requested by ZX81

to see how it might affect SOD.
All it did was slide the plug back with a fingernail and place plug on top, did not mess with the battery. Left it this way 5 mins.
I CAN NO LONGER INVOKE SOD!! I have tried putting it to sleep for 2 mins then using it, no problem. 15 min nap and it functions fine.
Left asleep for 3 hours woke bright eyed and full functioning. I had wifi on all these times and did on occasion see it flash on for a sec then off Each time it reconnected to my wife network. I have tried it in airplane mode as well with no issues.
This makes sense from my stand point in that I only got SOD after having run the battery down and having the unit die on me.
Side not to this I have now heard that people with Blackberrys that get SOD have always disconnected the battery and the problem is fixed for many months.
Is it really that easy??

oldyellr · 07-18-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GJSmith

Side not to this I have now heard that people with Blackberrys that get SOD have always disconnected the battery and the problem is fixed for many months.
Is it really that easy??

The Blackberry PB problem is that once the battery gets really run down and then left for several days, it will never charge again. No sign of life. Not SOD, but Death. Apparently it needs the processor to manage the charging, but the processor can't run on a dead battery. There are tricks to bring it back, but they don't always work.

The reason I mention this is because a friend had this happen after neglecting her PB. She just gave up on it and bought a Vox because primarily she wanted to read books.

mr_nobody · 07-18-2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GJSmith

I am posting this in a new thread to make it more visible.
I did the battery disconnect as requested by ZX81

to see how it might affect SOD.
All it did was slide the plug back with a fingernail and place plug on top, did not mess with the battery. Left it this way 5 mins.
I CAN NO LONGER INVOKE SOD!! I have tried putting it to sleep for 2 mins then using it, no problem. 15 min nap and it functions fine.
Left asleep for 3 hours woke bright eyed and full functioning. I had wifi on all these times and did on occasion see it flash on for a sec then off Each time it reconnected to my wife network. I have tried it in airplane mode as well with no issues.
This makes sense from my stand point in that I only got SOD after having run the battery down and having the unit die on me.
Side not to this I have now heard that people with Blackberrys that get SOD have always disconnected the battery and the problem is fixed for many months.
Is it really that easy??

Please turn OFF wifi and re-test. Most people do not experience SOD if wifi is on AND wifi sleep policy is set to never.

MegaSilver · 07-18-2012, 03:40 PM

WOW! This looks like it has fixed the SOD issues I was having. I pulled the back cover off (for the 1st time) and pulled the plug on the battery for 5 minutes. After putting things back and booting up again, I reset the time then did the following;

- WiFi was on (I always had to keep it on to prevent SOD)
- Put into airplane mode. Locked Vox, waited a few minutes; able to unlock.
- Let Vox sleep itself. Waited a few minutes; able to unlock.
- Changed WiFi policy to sleep when screen off
- Turned airplane mode off. Locked screen; able to unlock.
- Let Vox sleep itself; able to unlock;
- Turned WiFi off
- Locked screen, able to unlock
- Let Vox sleep itself; able to unlock.

My Vox has been on now for 2+ hours, and no SOD!!! Hopefully I can get more than 6-7 hours out of it now.

mr_nobody · 07-18-2012, 04:52 PM

Great find to the original discoverer if true! However, the imminent arrival of my nexus 7 means my vox has a future as a doorstop, sod or no. :P

[edit]: And shame on kobo tech support/engineers for not figuring this out...

jiminrussell · 07-18-2012, 05:01 PM

I still need to do some more testing but so far this seems to have fixed the SOD problem for me as well. I turned wifi off and put it in standby for a few minutes and it started back up fine.

Will do some more testing over the next day or two before I am convinced it was this simple to fix a problem I have had with my fox for the last 8 months. Either way, thanks to GJSmith for starting the new thread as I would have missed this otherwise.

mr_nobody · 07-18-2012, 06:36 PM

It does seem to work...ridiculous!

wilbrich · 07-18-2012, 08:50 PM

Uh...maybe a dumb question but how do you remove the back cover? Is it just the black backing that you pry off? With a sharp blade? Mine seems to be on pretty firmly.

mr_nobody · 07-18-2012, 08:54 PM

If you have strong fingernails, you may be able to do it...I used a small screwdriver...the back is attached with several clips all around the edges. Just do it slowly, a bit at a time and nothing should break.

wilbrich · 07-18-2012, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_nobody

If you have strong fingernails, you may be able to do it...I used a small screwdriver...the back is attached with several clips all around the edges. Just do it slowly, a bit at a time and nothing should break.

Good to know. Thanks!

suedenim · 07-19-2012, 02:07 PM

He hee hee he hee hee hee
Works - really does work. I'm enjoying my Vox better now !!!

peterhondak · 07-19-2012, 04:19 PM

it works for me too, but I think the battery was still draining more than it should during sleep. But better than that annoying restart before. all day I've been able to read a few pages here and there.

GJSmith · 07-19-2012, 05:06 PM

Peterhondak you are right about the battery drain. I left mine on over night with wifi on as usual but it was dead in the morning. Never had that before. I use to go 3 days without charging.
Interesting though I still do not have SOD after having it died. Also upon restarting my vox and allowing it to sleep to see if SOD would happen I got an email yet I had not opened my email program.
I will test it over night in sleep mode and airplane mode tonight and see how it fares.

Senior · 07-20-2012, 04:02 PM

I was updating my Java on my desktop computer and noted Java is advertised for mobile. Should I download Java for the Vox?

GJSmith · 07-20-2012, 09:58 PM

I did some googling and could not find Java that runs on android. What I did find is http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_mobile.xml

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senior

I was updating my Java on my desktop computer and noted Java is advertised for mobile. Should I download Java for the Vox?

07-18-2012, 01:16 PM	#1
GJSmith Connoisseur Posts: 87 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Barry's Bay Ontario Canada Device: Kobo Vox	SOD FIXED I am posting this in a new thread to make it more visible. I did the battery disconnect as requested by ZX81 to see how it might affect SOD. All it did was slide the plug back with a fingernail and place plug on top, did not mess with the battery. Left it this way 5 mins. I CAN NO LONGER INVOKE SOD!! I have tried putting it to sleep for 2 mins then using it, no problem. 15 min nap and it functions fine. Left asleep for 3 hours woke bright eyed and full functioning. I had wifi on all these times and did on occasion see it flash on for a sec then off Each time it reconnected to my wife network. I have tried it in airplane mode as well with no issues. This makes sense from my stand point in that I only got SOD after having run the battery down and having the unit die on me. Side not to this I have now heard that people with Blackberrys that get SOD have always disconnected the battery and the problem is fixed for many months. Is it really that easy??

07-18-2012, 03:40 PM	#4
MegaSilver Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario Device: Kobo Vox	WOW! This looks like it has fixed the SOD issues I was having. I pulled the back cover off (for the 1st time) and pulled the plug on the battery for 5 minutes. After putting things back and booting up again, I reset the time then did the following; - WiFi was on (I always had to keep it on to prevent SOD) - Put into airplane mode. Locked Vox, waited a few minutes; able to unlock. - Let Vox sleep itself. Waited a few minutes; able to unlock. - Changed WiFi policy to sleep when screen off - Turned airplane mode off. Locked screen; able to unlock. - Let Vox sleep itself; able to unlock; - Turned WiFi off - Locked screen, able to unlock - Let Vox sleep itself; able to unlock. My Vox has been on now for 2+ hours, and no SOD!!! Hopefully I can get more than 6-7 hours out of it now. Last edited by MegaSilver; 07-19-2012 at 03:35 PM.

07-20-2012, 04:02 PM	#14
Senior Zealot Posts: 116 Karma: 171882 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Halifax Nova Scotia Canada Device: Kobo Vox	Java I was updating my Java on my desktop computer and noted Java is advertised for mobile. Should I download Java for the Vox?

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07-18-2012, 04:52 PM	#5
mr_nobody Evangelist Posts: 440 Karma: 26671 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo mini, nexus 7 (2012), kobo vox	Great find to the original discoverer if true! However, the imminent arrival of my nexus 7 means my vox has a future as a doorstop, sod or no. :P [edit]: And shame on kobo tech support/engineers for not figuring this out...

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jiminrussell JimInRussell Posts: 355 Karma: 143302 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Russell Ontario Canada Device: kobo Aura One, Forma, Elipsa, Sage	I still need to do some more testing but so far this seems to have fixed the SOD problem for me as well. I turned wifi off and put it in standby for a few minutes and it started back up fine. Will do some more testing over the next day or two before I am convinced it was this simple to fix a problem I have had with my fox for the last 8 months. Either way, thanks to GJSmith for starting the new thread as I would have missed this otherwise.

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mr_nobody Evangelist Posts: 440 Karma: 26671 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo mini, nexus 7 (2012), kobo vox	It does seem to work...ridiculous!

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wilbrich Connoisseur Posts: 57 Karma: 1412 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Vox, Kobo (original), Sony Tablet, Sony PRS505	Uh...maybe a dumb question but how do you remove the back cover? Is it just the black backing that you pry off? With a sharp blade? Mine seems to be on pretty firmly.

07-18-2012, 08:54 PM	#9
mr_nobody Evangelist Posts: 440 Karma: 26671 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo mini, nexus 7 (2012), kobo vox	If you have strong fingernails, you may be able to do it...I used a small screwdriver...the back is attached with several clips all around the edges. Just do it slowly, a bit at a time and nothing should break.

07-19-2012, 02:07 PM	#11
suedenim Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 400010 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: BC Device: Kobo Vox	He hee hee he hee hee hee Works - really does work. I'm enjoying my Vox better now !!!

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peterhondak Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 60 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: KoboMini (mine and MIL) KoboVox(returned), sonytouch(mom's),samsung7"	it works for me too, but I think the battery was still draining more than it should during sleep. But better than that annoying restart before. all day I've been able to read a few pages here and there.

07-19-2012, 05:06 PM	#13
GJSmith Connoisseur Posts: 87 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Barry's Bay Ontario Canada Device: Kobo Vox	Peterhondak you are right about the battery drain. I left mine on over night with wifi on as usual but it was dead in the morning. Never had that before. I use to go 3 days without charging. Interesting though I still do not have SOD after having it died. Also upon restarting my vox and allowing it to sleep to see if SOD would happen I got an email yet I had not opened my email program. I will test it over night in sleep mode and airplane mode tonight and see how it fares.