Nook HD/HD+ Update Adds Google Play - Page 9

robertc88 · 05-07-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by taosaur

Play Music is working just fine for me, online and offline. Before you updated, where you running pure stock or rooted with the old Google Play hack? I wiped the device and started from scratch.

ETA: I'm finding the built in Recent Apps/Activity inaccurate along with being slow and ugly. Maybe it only shows items accessed via the stock launcher?

I think I updated the app for Play Music after I installed the software update for Nook. I was using the n2a card before for access to gapps, I never rooted.

Folks on Nook boards say to deregister the nook and registering again gives the app for Play Store in the listing for all apps. It was always showing though in the settings menu for applications with all the other apps listed.

I plan to stay with Nova launcher and I put the icon on homepage for easy access. Play Music was in the list of apps using Nova, not using Nook launcher though. I suspect the old music player for Nook is causing a conflict and permissions for user to get access to Play Store.

I am not sure about what you wrote last. Maybe you are right though with only showing activity with Nook launcher, not an alternate.

Rebo · 05-07-2013, 06:57 PM

I’ve been busy downloading some of my favorite iOS equivalent android apps into the HD+. To my surprise, I can’t find an equivalent app that allows caching Youtube videos for offline viewing in the Google play store. iTunes has many such apps readily available. I searched the net and found the equivalent android app and it is available in the Amazon apps. However, Google Play doesn’t offer Amazon apps and the HD+ doesn’t allow easy apps sideloading so I’m now trying to see if I can sideload the app using the PC and ADB. It is somewhat frustrating to see that it is a much easier chore for my friend who has the Galaxy Nexsus phone. He simply goes to his phone setting to bypass Google Play and install Amazon apps and download my fav app from there.

The Google play is a huge improvement and missing one particular app is really no big deal in the grand scheme but it just points out that the Nook is still a restricted ecosystem.

taosaur · 05-07-2013, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebo

I’ve been busy downloading some of my favorite iOS equivalent android apps into the HD+. To my surprise, I can’t find an equivalent app that allows caching Youtube videos for offline viewing in the Google play store. iTunes has many such apps readily available. I searched the net and found the equivalent android app and it is available in the Amazon apps. However, Google Play doesn’t offer Amazon apps and the HD+ doesn’t allow easy apps sideloading so I’m now trying to see if I can sideload the app using the PC and ADB. It is somewhat frustrating to see that it is a much easier chore for my friend who has the Galaxy Nexsus phone. He simply goes to his phone setting to bypass Google Play and install Amazon apps and download my fav app from there.

The answer is that Google, not Apple or Amazon, owns YouTube. They won't permit YouTube downloaders in their store, so if you want that kind of app (probably TubeMate) you'll have to make a ClockworkMod card and enable Unknown Sources.

robertc88 · 05-08-2013, 11:03 AM

I have Netflix and Twitter obtained from the Play Store, they can be upgraded when I checked this morning. There is no 'N' on the app when I looked on the list for all apps so I know it came from the Play Store. When I launched into Nook side, no apps need to be updated so all that is being checked for upgrade there are Nook's apps loaded from their store. I guess that makes sense.

toronado · 05-09-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

There is every indication that all of them date back to late 2012.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/08/mic...for-1-billion/

krighton · 05-09-2013, 07:49 AM

re: article, i'm sure the Nook will be viable even if they stop production....google store paves the way for that. By 2014 I will have probably sold my nook and moved on to something else anyway.

toronado · 05-09-2013, 11:49 AM

I almost ordered one, but decided not to. I actually placed an order, then realized it was an impulse buy and cancelled it.

I'm either going to wait for the new Nexus 7 (hopefully sometime this summer), or else buy a Nook HD+ when B&N has their SUPER BLOWOUT GOING OUT OF THE TABLET BUSINESS SALE that makes this $90 off sale seem like peanuts. (kidding) :-P

It could happen though.

jocampo · 05-09-2013, 12:57 PM

2 years it's a lot for a tablet. After two years, even for a well known company like Apple or Amazon, the tablet should be reaching its end of software's support, and hardware's warranty. Same goes for eink readers.

Let's face it! Tablets are more or less, disposable devices now. They are not like those ancient PCs that we used to keep running until dead.

Apache · 05-09-2013, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocampo

Let's face it! Tablets are more or less, disposable devices now. They are not like those ancient PCs that we used to keep running until dead.

I have a 10 year old laptop hooked up to my engraving machine and it is still going great. As long as it does it's job I will keep it.

Apache

toronado · 05-09-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jocampo

2 years it's a lot for a tablet. After two years, even for a well known company like Apple...

Or especially for a company like Apple.

I think one reason Apple doesn't worry about the iPad cannibalizing Mac sales (to whatever extent it does) is, although they charge less for an iPad than a MacBook, they obsolete the iPads faster.

tubemonkey · 05-09-2013, 01:22 PM

A short life cycle is why I buy low to mid range for my gadgets.

pl001 · 05-09-2013, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocampo

2 years it's a lot for a tablet. After two years, even for a well known company like Apple or Amazon, the tablet should be reaching its end of software's support, and hardware's warranty. Same goes for eink readers.

Let's face it! Tablets are more or less, disposable devices now. They are not like those ancient PCs that we used to keep running until dead.

That's one of the reasons I went with a Surface RT. Microsoft has pledged 4 years of support for it. Apple also supports their products well. Android doesn't have any real support to speak of because it's so fragmented. When I bought my EVO, HTC had a great reputation for support. Now they don't. Then Sprint messes with it as well. Android support is practically worthless, that's a big reason why people update so often. I still like it best though on a day-to-day basis.

koland · 05-09-2013, 01:59 PM

What's the easiest way to enable loading apps outside of B&N/Google? I have several I use (daily) that come straight from the companies (such as the controller for my stereo and jukebox). Usually I just load from dropbox, where I've saved copies of the APK's, but the HD+ won't let them install.

Nahgem · 05-09-2013, 07:03 PM

This thread on XDA gives instructions for enabling installing from unknown sources via CWM recovery and a flash-able zip. Items 1 and 5 seem to be the ones you want for that.

ADB might still work as well.

I haven't done either method, so I'm not speaking from experience here.

taosaur · 05-10-2013, 12:29 AM

Agreed that thread is the easiest way. Making a bootable CWM card seems to be a hurdle for a lot of people, but it's at most a 3-step process that gives you the ability to turn on Unknown Sources or go full root with little to no learning curve. It also provides a great backup strategy, depending on how much you value your tablet configuration.

05-08-2013, 11:03 AM	#124
robertc88 Fanatic Posts: 555 Karma: 1579999 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: none	I have Netflix and Twitter obtained from the Play Store, they can be upgraded when I checked this morning. There is no 'N' on the app when I looked on the list for all apps so I know it came from the Play Store. When I launched into Nook side, no apps need to be updated so all that is being checked for upgrade there are Nook's apps loaded from their store. I guess that makes sense. Last edited by robertc88; 05-08-2013 at 11:08 AM.

05-09-2013, 07:03 PM	#134
Nahgem Groupie Posts: 170 Karma: 1065326 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Nooks	This thread on XDA gives instructions for enabling installing from unknown sources via CWM recovery and a flash-able zip. Items 1 and 5 seem to be the ones you want for that. ADB might still work as well. I haven't done either method, so I'm not speaking from experience here. Last edited by Nahgem; 05-09-2013 at 07:13 PM.

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05-07-2013, 06:57 PM	#122
Rebo Groupie Posts: 173 Karma: 392 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: nook, nook color, kindle 3, Ipad 2nd gen, Nook HD+, Iphone 4S	I’ve been busy downloading some of my favorite iOS equivalent android apps into the HD+. To my surprise, I can’t find an equivalent app that allows caching Youtube videos for offline viewing in the Google play store. iTunes has many such apps readily available. I searched the net and found the equivalent android app and it is available in the Amazon apps. However, Google Play doesn’t offer Amazon apps and the HD+ doesn’t allow easy apps sideloading so I’m now trying to see if I can sideload the app using the PC and ADB. It is somewhat frustrating to see that it is a much easier chore for my friend who has the Galaxy Nexsus phone. He simply goes to his phone setting to bypass Google Play and install Amazon apps and download my fav app from there. The Google play is a huge improvement and missing one particular app is really no big deal in the grand scheme but it just points out that the Nook is still a restricted ecosystem.

05-09-2013, 07:49 AM	#126
krighton Addict Posts: 213 Karma: 4726 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: sony reader	re: article, i'm sure the Nook will be viable even if they stop production....google store paves the way for that. By 2014 I will have probably sold my nook and moved on to something else anyway.

05-09-2013, 11:49 AM	#127
toronado Addict Posts: 223 Karma: 1196576 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I almost ordered one, but decided not to. I actually placed an order, then realized it was an impulse buy and cancelled it. I'm either going to wait for the new Nexus 7 (hopefully sometime this summer), or else buy a Nook HD+ when B&N has their SUPER BLOWOUT GOING OUT OF THE TABLET BUSINESS SALE that makes this $90 off sale seem like peanuts. (kidding) :-P It could happen though.

05-09-2013, 12:57 PM	#128
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	2 years it's a lot for a tablet. After two years, even for a well known company like Apple or Amazon, the tablet should be reaching its end of software's support, and hardware's warranty. Same goes for eink readers. Let's face it! Tablets are more or less, disposable devices now. They are not like those ancient PCs that we used to keep running until dead.

05-09-2013, 01:22 PM	#131
tubemonkey monkey on the fringe Posts: 45,477 Karma: 158151390 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show	A short life cycle is why I buy low to mid range for my gadgets.

05-09-2013, 01:59 PM	#133
koland Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,560 Karma: 8033155 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: TN, USA Device: kindle(all), nook, nookcolor, Sony, Kobo, epic, iphone, iPad, pc	What's the easiest way to enable loading apps outside of B&N/Google? I have several I use (daily) that come straight from the companies (such as the controller for my stereo and jukebox). Usually I just load from dropbox, where I've saved copies of the APK's, but the HD+ won't let them install.

05-10-2013, 12:29 AM	#135
taosaur intelligent posterior Posts: 1,562 Karma: 21295618 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohiopolis Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Samsung S8, Lenovo Tab 3 Pro	Agreed that thread is the easiest way. Making a bootable CWM card seems to be a hurdle for a lot of people, but it's at most a 3-step process that gives you the ability to turn on Unknown Sources or go full root with little to no learning curve. It also provides a great backup strategy, depending on how much you value your tablet configuration.

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