Update to firmware V3.0 for older devices - Page 2

Sevenlives · 10-29-2020, 05:15 AM

For anyone interested in the Nova pro. My reply from Onyx was for November. I believe Nova 2 and others come first by end of Oct.

cicabum · 10-29-2020, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sevenlives

For anyone interested in the Nova pro. My reply from Onyx was for November. I believe Nova 2 and others come first by end of Oct.

Thank you. Maybe Onyx Note 1 will get firmware 3 in November as well.

Markismus · 10-29-2020, 04:47 PM

Would be nice, if it happens: Still a _lot_ to improve on NeoReader and Note.

Looking at the kreader2-release.apk* in the app folder on the system partition, I don't see a lot that is necessarily android 6 dependent.
So if the upgrade doesn't reach the android6 devices even in december, would anyone be willing to share the new apk-file? If it doesn't install without problems, I'll hack it to fit.

After installing Total Commander, you're free to browse the whole directory structure and I would guess that it's in the root>app>kreader-releaseX directory.

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*When I clicked to install this one with Total Commander, I got the message that NeoReader was already installed. So it's safe to assume that this is the name of the apk-file of NeoReader.

Crowriver · 10-30-2020, 09:26 PM

Good news for those with Poke 2 devices. I suppose we'll find out if the "Pro" line will be getting v3.0 firmware sooner or later.....meantime my devices are still eminently usable.

ottischwenk · 10-31-2020, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowriver

Good news for those with Poke 2 devices. I suppose we'll find out if the "Pro" line will be getting v3.0 firmware sooner or later.....meantime my devices are still eminently usable.

I cannot imagine that it will be possible with Android 6 devices - the split screen does not yet exist in this version.
But we'll see what happens.

Sevenlives · 10-31-2020, 11:41 PM

It's possible and Onyx's responses seem to mean other devices will receive their own version of 3.0. Meaning for Android 6 devices, 3.0 may be a more limited affair in contrast to the Lumi etc.

I'm an artist and I use my Nova pro as a sketch pad. I honestly just want my layers. I suggested layers to Onyx a while back and I'll be satisfied with that alone. Anything beyond that is icing on the cake for me.

That should hold me off until the color technology gets better on E ink.

Crowriver · 11-01-2020, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

I cannot imagine that it will be possible with Android 6 devices - the split screen does not yet exist in this version.
But we'll see what happens.

There's already a split view function in v2.3.1, which is more limited but very useful on the Max devices.

Crowriver · 11-01-2020, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sevenlives

It's possible and Onyx's responses seem to mean other devices will receive their own version of 3.0. Meaning for Android 6 devices, 3.0 may be a more limited affair in contrast to the Lumi etc.

I'm an artist and I use my Nova pro as a sketch pad. I honestly just want my layers. I suggested layers to Onyx a while back and I'll be satisfied with that alone. Anything beyond that is icing on the cake for me.

That should hold me off until the color technology gets better on E ink.

I have a similar perspective. Any of these new enhancements would be very welcome on Android 6 devices. I'm hopeful we'll receive at least updated Notes, NeoReader and hopefully the new NeoBrowser. Any system wide changes may not be possible.

adrians · 11-01-2020, 09:51 PM

I'd be pretty upset if the split screen capability that comes with Android 10 won't be available on my Max 3. The hardware is pretty much the same as the Max Lumi, the device is only a year old and the only reason they'd have not to upgrade it to 10 is to get people to upgrade.

ottischwenk · 11-02-2020, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by adrians

I'd be pretty upset if the split screen capability that comes with Android 10 won't be available on my Max 3. The hardware is pretty much the same as the Max Lumi, the device is only a year old and the only reason they'd have not to upgrade it to 10 is to get people to upgrade.

Android 9 can split-screen while Android 6 cannot.

Sevenlives · 11-02-2020, 12:35 PM

Anyone else feels that Onyx releases too many iterations per year? I feel like I bought my Nova Pro not long ago and it's already in danger of soon being ignored on the updates front. lol

rkomar · 11-02-2020, 01:53 PM

I think the problem comes down to the changes in the SOC (System-on-Chip) being used. It is a lot of work adding support for a SOC to Android, and I suspect that most of that work is done by the SOC manufacturer. Boards with older SOCs probably don't have updates for new versions of Android because the manufacturer isn't interested in doing the work to support chips that aren't selling much anymore. Small companies that use the chips (like Onyx) probably don't have the expertise to add support for older SOCs to newer versions of Android. So, the devices with olders SOCs get left behind when newer versions of Android come out.

adrians · 11-02-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Android 9 can split-screen

I don't see this on my Max 3 with Android 9 while it was specifically called out on the new readers with Android 10.

ottischwenk · 11-03-2020, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adrians

I don't see this on my Max 3 with Android 9 while it was specifically called out on the new readers with Android 10.

I got OS3 for my Nova 2 and there it is in the touch bar - but I had to edit it so that it can be displayed and used.

Sevenlives · 11-03-2020, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ottischwenk

I got OS3 for my Nova 2 and there it is in the touch bar - but I had to edit it so that it can be displayed and used.

Has fw 3.0 come out for Nova 2? If so was it in Oct?

10-29-2020, 05:15 AM	#16
Sevenlives Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 20698 Join Date: Oct 2020 Device: Nova Pro	Nova Pro For anyone interested in the Nova pro. My reply from Onyx was for November. I believe Nova 2 and others come first by end of Oct.

10-29-2020, 04:47 PM	#18
Markismus Guru Posts: 897 Karma: 149877 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Netherlands Device: Cracked HiSenseA5ProCC, Cracked OnyxNotePro, Note5, Kobo Glo, Aura	Would be nice, if it happens: Still a _lot_ to improve on NeoReader and Note. Looking at the kreader2-release.apk* in the app folder on the system partition, I don't see a lot that is necessarily android 6 dependent. So if the upgrade doesn't reach the android6 devices even in december, would anyone be willing to share the new apk-file? If it doesn't install without problems, I'll hack it to fit. After installing Total Commander, you're free to browse the whole directory structure and I would guess that it's in the root>app>kreader-releaseX directory. ____________________ When I clicked to install this one with Total Commander, I got the message that NeoReader was already installed. So it's safe to assume that this is the name of the apk-file of NeoReader. Last edited by Markismus; 10-29-2020 at 04:49 PM.*

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10-30-2020, 09:26 PM	#19
Crowriver Groupie Posts: 151 Karma: 5800762 Join Date: Jul 2020 Device: Too many!	Good news for those with Poke 2 devices. I suppose we'll find out if the "Pro" line will be getting v3.0 firmware sooner or later.....meantime my devices are still eminently usable.

10-31-2020, 11:41 PM	#21
Sevenlives Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 20698 Join Date: Oct 2020 Device: Nova Pro	It's possible and Onyx's responses seem to mean other devices will receive their own version of 3.0. Meaning for Android 6 devices, 3.0 may be a more limited affair in contrast to the Lumi etc. I'm an artist and I use my Nova pro as a sketch pad. I honestly just want my layers. I suggested layers to Onyx a while back and I'll be satisfied with that alone. Anything beyond that is icing on the cake for me. That should hold me off until the color technology gets better on E ink.

11-01-2020, 09:51 PM	#24
adrians Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 130 Join Date: Dec 2014 Device: Kobo Glo	I'd be pretty upset if the split screen capability that comes with Android 10 won't be available on my Max 3. The hardware is pretty much the same as the Max Lumi, the device is only a year old and the only reason they'd have not to upgrade it to 10 is to get people to upgrade.

11-02-2020, 12:35 PM	#26
Sevenlives Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 20698 Join Date: Oct 2020 Device: Nova Pro	Anyone else feels that Onyx releases too many iterations per year? I feel like I bought my Nova Pro not long ago and it's already in danger of soon being ignored on the updates front. lol

11-02-2020, 01:53 PM	#27
rkomar Wizard Posts: 2,986 Karma: 18343081 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sudbury, ON, Canada Device: PRS-505, PB 902, PRS-T1, PB 623, PB 840, PB 633	I think the problem comes down to the changes in the SOC (System-on-Chip) being used. It is a lot of work adding support for a SOC to Android, and I suspect that most of that work is done by the SOC manufacturer. Boards with older SOCs probably don't have updates for new versions of Android because the manufacturer isn't interested in doing the work to support chips that aren't selling much anymore. Small companies that use the chips (like Onyx) probably don't have the expertise to add support for older SOCs to newer versions of Android. So, the devices with olders SOCs get left behind when newer versions of Android come out.

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