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Old 09-29-2016, 06:50 AM   #1
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Calibre 3.0 changes and bèta release date?

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I've seen Calibre 3.0 mentioned multiple times now. Is there a summary in which is stated what the changes are going to be? Are current plugins going to work, or do they need changes as well?

Also, is there a (tentative) release date for a bèta version? I'm willing to run version 3.0, with its own library, for testing purposes. If I do something in 2.0, I can then do it in 3.0 as well (and also use any new functions) and report bugs.

I can't help with programming as my Python knowledge is 0, and I don't have enough free time beside work+study to get into this, but I can at least help by testing, if wanted.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:40 AM   #2
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I will announce the beta here when it is ready. Still a lot of work to finish for that though. There should be no effect on the vast majority of plugins.

However, you can test the main feature of 3.0 -- the new content server using a normal calibre install, by running

calibre-debug.exe --new-server -- /path/to/some/calibre/library/folder

And then go to http://localhost:8080 in some *modern* browser. The new server already has more functionality than the old one, but the major new component, the in browser viewer is under heavy development right now.
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Interesting. Not sure if I am a fan of the 'distressed' covers (bashed corners ) look. The Grid is nice

It does seen slower. (W10 core2)

Also, some fields appear to be missing is 'searches' (custom dates: #finished AKA Read) is this respecting any existing tweaks?
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Will the existing viewer (ebook-viewer.exe) continue to be distributed in the calibre package?

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Old 09-29-2016, 10:05 PM   #5
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@theducks: fields missing from where? The Book details page?

@BR: Yes. Though eventually, it will probably be re-written from scratch to use the same codebase as the in browser viewer.
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I will announce the beta here when it is ready. Still a lot of work to finish for that though. There should be no effect on the vast majority of plugins.
I'll wait for the announcement then

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However, you can test the main feature of 3.0 -- the new content server using a normal calibre install, by running

calibre-debug.exe --new-server -- /path/to/some/calibre/library/folder

And then go to http://localhost:8080 in some *modern* browser. The new server already has more functionality than the old one, but the major new component, the in browser viewer is under heavy development right now.
Ack... it's the one feature in calibre I don't use

Still, I'll make a new library and take a look at the content server. If I encounter any unexpected behavior, I'll report it )
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@theducks: fields missing from where? The Book details page?

@BR: Yes. Though eventually, it will probably be re-written from scratch to use the same codebase as the in browser viewer.
The Search Page

I see many fields with pulldowns,. Including custom , but no dates

I wanted to do a False type on a date (AKA not read)
#finished:false

'Dates' would not be a pulldown. dates could be: single, range, count_range , true-false

I think I need to wait for the Manual as I just figured out how to drive some of the new search
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:26 PM   #8
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Searching works exactly like in the main calibre program. Think of the items below the search bar as items from the Tag Browser in the main program. You can click them to create a search just as you would in calibre, or you can directly type in the search query. Just as in calibre, date like fields are not included in the tag browser entries, you have to type them in manually.
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Searching works exactly like in the main calibre program. Think of the items below the search bar as items from the Tag Browser in the main program. You can click them to create a search just as you would in calibre, or you can directly type in the search query. Just as in calibre, date like fields are not included in the tag browser entries, you have to type them in manually.
I tried typing just like I would in the GUI (you tend to be consistent )
#finished:false works as expected in the GUI

I just updated to 2.69
It now works
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@Kovid - are you interested in feed back before the beta ?

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Yes, and no It is easier to change things/add functionality before everything is done, on the other hand, I want to focus on getting to a minimum releasable state as quickly as possible.
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BTW the new server (W10 x64) worked fine with Calibre Companion to pull a few titles
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With the current server I can 'jump' to a list of books for an author, or a book via commands such as

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"C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/matches/authors/187
"C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/book/125
Where 187 is a author table id and 125 is a book id. Will this be available with the new server?

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Yes, just look at the urls generated when you go to those places in the server, the pattern will become obvious. You can in fact link to individual locations inside books, not just to the metadata page for the book.

But, let me interject a note of caution. The URL scheme may change anytime upto the release, since the server is still in development.
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@Kovid - I actually meant will the current url scheme will be available (perhaps as an alternative), I have lots of them embedded in EN and ON Notes. The current the equivalents are

ipaddress:port/?search=authors:%22%3DBetter%20Red%22 and
ipaddress:port/book-id=307&panel=book-details

The second one is OK as it's based on the book's unique key, so I can easily adjust what I have. But the one for authors uses the Author Name which is not a unique key, and...

I think I'd better wait until the beta is released before I make further comments

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