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01-06-2012, 03:23 PM | #33 |
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I knew exactly what he meant, that's not the point. Many people think that downloading material without permission is illegal, but is that true?
As I said previously, pick a random link on the internet and click on it. There's a high probability that you just downloaded something copyrighted. Are you in violation of the law? Was the site you just downloaded from authorized by the copyright holder? Do you even know who the copyright holder is? Secondly, when a customer buys an ebook from Amazon, who has to obtain permission from the Publisher? Amazon or the customer? Most people get so tied up in the P2P/torrent scenario, and the connotations that go along with it, that they completely forget that this is a MUCH larger issue than the obvious cases. |
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I would not ask in which country it is legal to download a copyrighted ebook, but instead in which country one can download a copyrighted ebook unpunished.
One example, Mexico. We have copyright laws. But this doesn't prevent that they sell pirated movies in streets at broad light (last time I checked it was 4 DVDs for about US $7). And of course one can download from Internet ebooks, music and whatnot without being bothered by big media. This situation is despite (or maybe because) of American pressure. Just last June, in a rare display of sanity, the Mexican Senate rejected ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement). |
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There is a copyright statement placed by the page owner (some with limitations on what you can do with your copy). In all cases, the owner has provided viewing access as their right |
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A better example, closer to our primary interest on this board: US citizen stumbles upon a book enthusiast forum hosted in Canada. One of the users has left a "see chapter 2" link as a reference in discussion. Once you click on that link, it turns out that you just downloaded a html format of the full-blown copy of the work that is in public domain in Canada, but not in US. There you go, an US citizen just violated the copyright by creating an unauthorized copy of the work protected by the copyright law of US. |
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01-08-2012, 01:32 PM | #37 | |
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I'am afraid you and Shaggy are making it more difficult than neccessary. You don't need to know beforehand if the site you're visiting contains copyrighted photos from Reuter, for example. You're only responsibility is what you're doing with this photo. If you just look at it, it's fine, if you use it on your own website or distribute it in any other way, that's wrong. But no one will bring you to court because your browser cache folder contains copyrighted photos. |
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And the argument is that because of the nature of Internet, it is not practical to prosecute those who download copyrighted material. One has to prove that downloader's intent to violate the copyright law, that he knew what he was doing, that he was aware that the work was copyrighted, etc. etc. etc. The one who uploads copyright protected material is in clean violation of the law, there are no COMPLICATIONS. |
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I don't know what the situation in Canada is, but in the UK there's no need whatsoever to prove that a person "intended" to break the law. There's an old saying here: "ignorance of the law is no excuse". Ie you break the law equally whether you deliberately set out to do so, or you do so in total ignorance.
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In Germany it is illgeal to download, they have very strict liscensing laws there.
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01-09-2012, 02:01 PM | #45 | |
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That's why, if downloading is illegal, accidentally and/or unknowingly clicking on a link that contains unauthorized material would also be illegal. That would make it practically impossible to use the internet without committing infringement. |
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