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Old 05-19-2012, 03:49 AM   #16
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I think it is rather rude to assume that people who read this forum give a hoot about american law... Would you guys just notice this is an international forum?

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Old 05-19-2012, 04:58 AM   #17
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I just wanted to let everyone know about one weird side effect of carrying m92 around. My faculty library is equipped with one of those supermarket style anti-shoplifiting systems which sound an alarm whenever a book is taken out without first being "disarmed". Now it turns out m92 triggers this alarm - I carried it in a notebook bag, it was off... And the effect is persistent, regardless of position of the device relative to system's gate.

This may sound stupid and all, but I don't really like attracting everyone's attention whenever I enter the library (let alone being strip-searched on every such occasion - some librarians are young and female but some quite the opposite ). And this is not going to be funny at all in a supermarket with real security.
it is not stupid at all .. very interesting instead..
so the concerns about sleep disturbances M92 related may have some basis
what would be interesting would be to know which part of the M92 exactly trigger this alarm.
the M92 is very simple to disassemble and reassemble and if you can use a screwdriver you could try.
Maybe is the battery or the speaker..
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:08 AM   #18
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"I am just stating what the court records show."

I am sure you can back that up with some links to relevant verdicts or newspaper articles ...
A quick one, 10 secs on Google

Yeah, that was hard to find!
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:33 AM   #19
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it is not stupid at all .. very interesting instead..
so the concerns about sleep disturbances M92 related may have some basis
what would be interesting would be to know which part of the M92 exactly trigger this alarm.
the M92 is very simple to disassemble and reassemble and if you can use a screwdriver you could try.
Maybe is the battery or the speaker..
There are some technologies for these alarms: RF and magnetic. I think it's more likely the first method.

A technical description of different systems can be found here:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com...ing-device.htm (page 4 onwards)

Normally the triggering part is a resonator (coil or coil+capacitor) in the 8 MHz range that is part of the circuit electronics and thus, cannot be removed/changed. I don't think it will be easy to diagnose without knowing device electronics schematics and alarm specifications.

Maybe a metal case container is a valid workaround....checking to wrap it with 2-3 turns of aluminum foil can be useful as a PoC to determine this before purchasing one.

One of these days I will carry mine on walk to see if I suffer the same issue.

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Old 05-22-2012, 05:10 AM   #20
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A quick one, 10 secs on Google

Yeah, that was hard to find!


Your statements:

"I do not agree with this, I am just stating what the court records show."
"and all that good stuff and 9 times out of 10 will win. "

In you link it says: "filed a lawsuit seeking $500,000 "

Not so easy after all ...
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:03 PM   #21
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Your statements:

"I do not agree with this, I am just stating what the court records show."
"and all that good stuff and 9 times out of 10 will win. "

In you link it says: "filed a lawsuit seeking $500,000 "

Not so easy after all ...
You do realize that your response made no sense at all yes?
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:42 AM   #22
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:02 AM   #23
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@janek

I agree with you...better focus on the device problem than in legal - law discussions, which are country-dependant.

Have you tried something?
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