Arabic and zooming PDF's

Hedaya · 03-17-2012, 11:20 AM

Hello,

I've been on the hunt for an e-reader that reads PDF's (even tried to figure out how to root my nook). Which brings me to my next point: my growing graveyard of e-readers:

I have a nook simple touch and a sony PRS-t1, and all I want is to be able to read epubs that are in Arabic and also zoom PDF's (the sony at least does that, the nook doesn't). If I have to, I can keep 2 e-readers, the sony and another one, but here's the million dollar question:

does the pocketbook read Arabic epubs (which I heard it did), and if so, how easy is it to make a non-techie like myself make it work, and how good is the support offered by pocketbook while I try to figure that aspect of it out?

Thank you!

Yar-PocketBooker · 03-17-2012, 03:44 PM

For any PDF, Arabic or any other language, I'd recommend a large screen e-Reader, either PB902/912 or Onyx Boox M92 - both of them do a great job of reflowing PDFs.
Though i believe that M92 is a little better device in general, but specifically for Arabic, I'd recommend PocketBook, as it is more suited for multilingual support and the actually do have Arabic menu.
If you have a PDF or two in Arabic, you can send it to me at info@ereadersmarket.com, I'll put it on PocketBook and will send you the screenshot of how it is handling it.

Hedaya · 03-17-2012, 04:07 PM

Wow, that's cool! If I'm doing epub, do I still need a large screen?

Here's some links for a couple of Arabic epubs:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/Matn_alAkhdari.epub
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alB...Ibn_Rushd.epub

do I have to do anything special to the pocketbook to make it work, or am I good to go out the box? Is there a particular edition of pocketbook you recommend? Would I be ok with the 612 I believe it is?

Hedaya · 03-17-2012, 04:26 PM

p.s. do you sell them, b/c I tried going on their website, the 877 number doesn't work? If so, do they come Arabic epub ready? (I'm really concerned about my low tech skills......)

Hedaya · 03-21-2012, 04:57 PM

Ok, so I have this pocketbook, and it reads Arabic texts that are not "voweled" properly, but if it has vowels, it disconnects the letters. Anyone know of any solution for that?

paola · 03-21-2012, 07:04 PM

try and have a look at this thread:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ghlight=arabic
it could also be a problem with the font you are using.

Hedaya · 03-21-2012, 07:24 PM

Maybe, I tried several fonts though, and I don't understand how to fix my CSS issues. The file reads fine in Calibre by the way. It's on my reader that I have an issue.

Hedaya · 03-21-2012, 07:24 PM

Maybe you know how to do this: I don't understand enough of this CSS business. I know the font I want to use is called "traditional Arabic" and the file is named trado.ttf for the regular and tradbdo.ttf for the bold-faced font.

Thanx.

paola · 03-22-2012, 04:08 AM

can you upload the file in question, so that I can try it out on my machines? Alos, which programme are you usin for reading?

Hedaya · 03-22-2012, 06:27 AM

I would greatly appreciate it. I've tried everything I can think of. I already have an account. :-)

This is an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alTuruq.epub

It reads fine in Calibre. But using the FB reader in my Pocketbook, it should like this:

ذَهَبَ الوَلَدُ

But it looks like this:

ذ َ ه َ ب َ ا ل و َ ل َ د

paola · 03-22-2012, 06:45 AM

I'll have a go at it tonight, and let you know how it goes!

Hedaya · 03-22-2012, 06:55 AM

Awesome, thank you! :-)

Billi · 03-22-2012, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedaya

Maybe you know how to do this: I don't understand enough of this CSS business. I know the font I want to use is called "traditional Arabic" and the file is named trado.ttf for the regular and tradbdo.ttf for the bold-faced font.

Thanx.

I'm not sure if you need to know anything of css at all.
What are you doing? Have you copied the fonts into the fonts folder of your Pocketbook? And did you choose, after opening the book with FBreader, this font as the general font?
I've opened your book on my Pocketbook and I think I didn't have any problems (I'm not 100 percent sure as I don't have any knowledge of the Arabic language). It looked well, without any issues. I've tried some fonts like Dejavu-Sans and Linux Libertine, they worked fine.
A collection with links to Arabic fonts you can find (for instance) here:
http://www.smi.uib.no/ksv/ArabicFonts.html

Hedaya · 03-22-2012, 12:03 PM

Yes, I have. The thing is, it *does* work, with non-voweled texts (and incidentally smaller ones). If they are voweled, it doesn't read it right, and I've tried every font I can think of (I even tried to peak at what font may have been embedded in the epubs, which looked to me like just plain old Times Roman, so I tried that too.

As for file size, if it's over 8 MB, even if it is not voweled (and therefore should work), my other problem is the reader freezes up.

(incidentally, if you hear thumping, that would in fact be my head against a wall! =) )

Hedaya · 03-22-2012, 12:05 PM

(p.s. when you checked it, how many pages in did you go? Most books only start voweling in the proper text. i.e. like on this one http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alTuruq.epub the voweling starts ~ 3-4 pages in. Then you see it:

ا ُ ر ِ ي د ُ ا َن

That's not how it should look. The phrase would be: أُريدُ أَن

What model do you have?

03-17-2012, 11:20 AM	#1
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Arabic and zooming PDF's Hello, I've been on the hunt for an e-reader that reads PDF's (even tried to figure out how to root my nook). Which brings me to my next point: my growing graveyard of e-readers: I have a nook simple touch and a sony PRS-t1, and all I want is to be able to read epubs that are in Arabic and also zoom PDF's (the sony at least does that, the nook doesn't). If I have to, I can keep 2 e-readers, the sony and another one, but here's the million dollar question: does the pocketbook read Arabic epubs (which I heard it did), and if so, how easy is it to make a non-techie like myself make it work, and how good is the support offered by pocketbook while I try to figure that aspect of it out? Thank you!

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03-17-2012, 03:44 PM	#2
Yar-PocketBooker Fanatic Posts: 589 Karma: 6976 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Device: PocketBooks and Onyxes and anything E-Ink...	For any PDF, Arabic or any other language, I'd recommend a large screen e-Reader, either PB902/912 or Onyx Boox M92 - both of them do a great job of reflowing PDFs. Though i believe that M92 is a little better device in general, but specifically for Arabic, I'd recommend PocketBook, as it is more suited for multilingual support and the actually do have Arabic menu. If you have a PDF or two in Arabic, you can send it to me at info@ereadersmarket.com, I'll put it on PocketBook and will send you the screenshot of how it is handling it.

03-17-2012, 04:07 PM	#3
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Wow, that's cool! If I'm doing epub, do I still need a large screen? Here's some links for a couple of Arabic epubs: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/Matn_alAkhdari.epub http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alB...Ibn_Rushd.epub do I have to do anything special to the pocketbook to make it work, or am I good to go out the box? Is there a particular edition of pocketbook you recommend? Would I be ok with the 612 I believe it is?

03-17-2012, 04:26 PM	#4
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	p.s. do you sell them, b/c I tried going on their website, the 877 number doesn't work? If so, do they come Arabic epub ready? (I'm really concerned about my low tech skills......)

03-21-2012, 04:57 PM	#5
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Ok, so I have this pocketbook, and it reads Arabic texts that are not "voweled" properly, but if it has vowels, it disconnects the letters. Anyone know of any solution for that?

03-21-2012, 07:04 PM	#6
paola Wizard Posts: 2,824 Karma: 5843878 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Device: Pocketbook Pro 903, (beloved Pocketbook 360 RIP), Kobo Mini, Kobo Aura	try and have a look at this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ghlight=arabic it could also be a problem with the font you are using.

03-21-2012, 07:24 PM	#7
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Maybe, I tried several fonts though, and I don't understand how to fix my CSS issues. The file reads fine in Calibre by the way. It's on my reader that I have an issue.

03-22-2012, 04:08 AM	#9
paola Wizard Posts: 2,824 Karma: 5843878 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Device: Pocketbook Pro 903, (beloved Pocketbook 360 RIP), Kobo Mini, Kobo Aura	can you upload the file in question, so that I can try it out on my machines? Alos, which programme are you usin for reading?

03-22-2012, 06:27 AM	#10
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	I would greatly appreciate it. I've tried everything I can think of. I already have an account. :-) This is an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alTuruq.epub It reads fine in Calibre. But using the FB reader in my Pocketbook, it should like this: ذَهَبَ الوَلَدُ But it looks like this: ذ َ ه َ ب َ ا ل و َ ل َ د

03-22-2012, 06:45 AM	#11
paola Wizard Posts: 2,824 Karma: 5843878 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Device: Pocketbook Pro 903, (beloved Pocketbook 360 RIP), Kobo Mini, Kobo Aura	I'll have a go at it tonight, and let you know how it goes!

03-22-2012, 06:55 AM	#12
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Awesome, thank you! :-)

03-22-2012, 12:03 PM	#14
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	Yes, I have. The thing is, it does work, with non-voweled texts (and incidentally smaller ones). If they are voweled, it doesn't read it right, and I've tried every font I can think of (I even tried to peak at what font may have been embedded in the epubs, which looked to me like just plain old Times Roman, so I tried that too. As for file size, if it's over 8 MB, even if it is not voweled (and therefore should work), my other problem is the reader freezes up. (incidentally, if you hear thumping, that would in fact be my head against a wall! =) )

03-22-2012, 12:05 PM	#15
Hedaya Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Pocketbook 612	(p.s. when you checked it, how many pages in did you go? Most books only start voweling in the proper text. i.e. like on this one http://dl.dropbox.com/u/63071236/alTuruq.epub the voweling starts ~ 3-4 pages in. Then you see it: ا ُ ر ِ ي د ُ ا َن That's not how it should look. The phrase would be: أُريدُ أَن What model do you have?