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As LCD cannot do what EInk does (and vice versa) it seems illogical to assume that either will totally drive out the other.
Also, while I find the battery life of an LCD device is often perfectly acceptable for a single reading session, where it really falls down is if one puts the device down and doesn't get back to reading for a day or two. That's where an EInk device shines and an LCD goes flat. They do different things well - they complement each other. |
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Used my Clie for nine years until it got the screen squashed by a turnstile in Rio; replaced it for twenty quid earlier this year, only to discover that the colour version I got instead of the mono one I had couldn't change the screen size.
It's batteries don't last for more than four hours of continuous use, though, but on the other hand it plays patience nicely! |
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Otherwise, a 6" screen is a 6" screen; if that size of display doesn't work for what you're reading, a 6" tablet won't improve that particular aspect. |
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Then there's the speed side of things, which is another problem too often dismissed by people with low standards. Hopefully with things like Mirasol, speed and color issues can be largely resolved, leaving contrast and resolution as the biggest problems to overcome with reader devices. LiquavistaBright claims to get fairly high contrast compared to e-ink (like the image at http://www.displaysearchblog.com/200...international/) and could solve some problems on that end of things, and some LCDs have been done with resolutions approaching that of low-quality printing, so I think it might get tackled from a resolution angle as well, reducing the need for anti-aliasing in fonts. The near future could very well be much much better than what is currently available, but then again, it's very possible that it'll go nowhere interesting. |
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The real question is what will make it out the door as a production product. Nobody in the VC world wants to invest in display technology. E-ink made it out the door by building a small plant themselves to get product out commercially. Pixel-Q has been working out getting production product out the door for nearly 2 years, and that was after the product had been shown to work in the OLPC project. I listened to a conference panel at SID this spring. They all pointed out this problem. Will Liquidvista, Mirasol, et at. actually make it out the production door. Until they do, we're stuck with E-ink, LCD, and Pixel-Q. They each have their pluses and minuses.
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I don't get the need for speed. You're reading a book, not playing a video game.
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Faster page turning is good if you want to "flip through" a book. The latest eInk devices can turn pages at about 3 or 4 pages a second, but faster would be good.
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My point was to simply not think that everyone has the same needs you do. I seldom read for more than 2 hours in any once sitting (even on longer flights) so I'd be fine with 6 hours or so of battery life. For long trips, no big deal to pack a charger. Already do for my cell phone, laptop etc., so no big deal to stick one more in the luggage. And sunlight--again, just matters if you read outside or not. With allergies, being a magnet for bug bites, sun burn etc. I never read outside and won't do anything outdoors unless I'm doing something specific like hiking or fishing--and obviously don't need to read during such outings. Battery life and sun light readability ARE definitely advantages to e-ink. And they're huge benefits for someone like you. But they aren't deal breakers for everyone, so it's silly to go to far and act like tablets are useless because the battery life is less than e-ink and they're hard to read in the sun. Some of us don't care about those and would take that loss of them to gain color screens, lag free stylus support, fast page turns for skimming documents, video, full net browsing etc. Quote:
It wouldn't replace my e-ink device, nor my laptop, but just be a supplement that I'd use mainly for reading and annotating academic PDFs, and also use on the couch for web browsing, use as a PDA/calendar etc. Quote:
And I need to be able to highlight stuff and jot notes in the margins just as easily as I can on print outs currently. And to be able to flip through documents quickly to find sections to cite at later dates etc.--e-ink is mind numbingly slow for this. And I know a lot of my colleagues are also interested in in such a device. Then you add in business where they can be used to help go toward a more paperless market etc. It is a niche item--I don't see it having main stream success with regular folks not using them mainly for work related purposes. But there's definitely a need for such devices in academia and segments of the business world. As long as something comes out that suits my needs on this front, I couldn't care less if it sells 10 million or 1,000 units. Quote:
Again, at the same time, the e-ink enthusiasts need to not overly bash tablets and other devices. It's fine to say such devices aren't for you. It's going to far to imply they're useless as the average person isn't an avid readers who read for hours a day every day, and thus the benefits of e-ink aren't as crucial to them, and many would prefer color, video, other functions they spend more time on than reading etc. Different strokes for different folks, and the market needs to provide a wide array of devices to meet different people's needs. Quote:
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Even the first time, I more skim than read the vast majority of things since literature reviews etc. tend to be very redundant when you've read most everything they're citing etc. E-ink is way to slow for that, vs a paper print out. An LCD tablet gets the page flipping closer to paper speeds. For my leisure reading, i don't care so much. Page turns could be a bit quicker on my K1, but they don't bother me as I never flip back through (or ahead) pages in a novel. |
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