11-07-2010, 09:16 PM | #586 |
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Guess they like killing trees.
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11-07-2010, 09:21 PM | #587 |
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11-07-2010, 09:59 PM | #588 | ||||
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In any case, if all books are available in all the (closed) markets -there's really no problem is there? Right now, the device-centric markets are (ironically) driving people against DRM in a way that was totally preventable. It was dead easy to keep people in a state of apathy when it comes to DRM - provide a method that did the job without inconveniencing the legal users. Oh wait, that's sort of ... um ... impossible . The point (of the linked article) is not to rehash the same old matters of principle against DRM, just to show why as a matter of sheer pragmatism and business strategy, DRM simply doesn't work as it's intended and why it alienates people who might not even understand what it is on their shoes that smells so bad . |
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11-07-2010, 10:15 PM | #589 | |
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Not if you used a 33% off sale in the 1980s and 1970s, too - you are not comparing the same thing. And Australian prices in 1980s, paperbacks less than 5.00. Now $23. No coupons. |
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11-07-2010, 10:18 PM | #590 | |
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Not sure there are any that are that delusional. Wishful, perhaps. Wanting to slow it down is possible. E.g. if you are a selfish bastard CEO who is 65 or something and planning on retiring in a year who wants to see if they can prop up a share price so their shareholder-robbing options package is worth more when they cash out....? |
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11-08-2010, 12:22 AM | #591 |
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This is a very good point. If we really want consumer pressure on the big guys (a good thing, IMO, being the free-market type), consumers need to know that alternatives to the big guys do in fact exist.
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11-08-2010, 01:15 AM | #592 | |||
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Even when it is supposed to work, eventually it fails. This is computers we're talking about. Google "kindle won't work register or registered" or some variant thereof. Plenty of people have issues, even with 'good' or 'transparent' DRM. DRM does nothing to stop piracy, and only hurts legitimate buyers. And it goes against free-market concepts of open markets and competition - locking people into certain stores with certain devices is anti- free markets. I'm enjoying the article someone posted above from Cory Doctorow: http://www.dashes.com/anil/stuff/doctorow-drm-ms.html Quote:
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11-08-2010, 02:05 AM | #593 | |
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ebook publishers have not made it a totally convenient experience to buy ebooks. It may appear they have, but in reality the impost of geographic restrictions means a buyer can buy a book via a webstore or locally, but cannot buy the same book in ebook form due to the antiquated distribution system that publishers are most reluctant to change. These stupid and un-necessary restrictions do contribute to piracy. The comparison I drew is that the publishing industry, like the music and entertainment industry, are still bumbling along with the same distribution system that served them well enough pre digital age. There was several years of stumbling around before those industries got part way to a solution. With such prime examples of what not to do, it does seem the publishers (agency 5) are moving down that same path. |
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11-08-2010, 04:24 AM | #595 |
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Absolutely. My 16 year old daughter is not interested in ebooks just yet, rather paperbacks and browsing through Dymocks with her on Saturday, I was amazed to see prices of new editions of older novels. Novels I purchased 30 years ago for $4.99 at the time. Inflation....
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11-08-2010, 05:13 AM | #596 |
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Ebooks have the potential to be the best thing for publishers ever. No more lost sales through people buying second hand books.
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11-08-2010, 05:19 AM | #597 | |
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11-08-2010, 07:00 AM | #599 |
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Not really, because large publishers deliberately give bigger discounts to large publishing chains - which means they really want to get rid of independent bookshops, or actually don't give a rat's arse if they survive.
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11-08-2010, 07:22 AM | #600 | |
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Using Australian inflation calculator a $5.00 book in 1980 would be over $17.73 today. The calculator stops at 2009. Using 10-20% online discount codes brings that $23 down to $18.40 - $20.70. Yes, you're paying more but Australia's inflation is running 2-3% this year and needs to be added to the $17.73. The problem is when comparing prices with other countries and currency exchange rates get added in the mix. Confuses things. |
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