iOS 8 is live - Page 9

HarryT · 09-29-2014, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

Seems like something's hogging the memory. On both my iPad and iPhone 5S I always have less than 10MB left of RAM. I don't know if that's normal though as there is now actually a use for these apps with the widgets.

No slowdowns though.

Free RAM is wasted RAM. A decent operating system will keep a small amount of RAM free to allow a new app to be started quickly, but will allow the running apps to use RAM up to this limit.

Jessica Lares · 09-29-2014, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Free RAM is wasted RAM. A decent operating system will keep a small amount of RAM free to allow a new app to be started quickly, but will allow the running apps to use RAM up to this limit.

True. I guess I'm so used to looking at my Android device usage. Just looked at Activity Monitor on my Mac and I'm using 3.99GB out of 4GB, plus 9.83GB of Virtual Memory.

eschwartz · 09-29-2014, 09:35 PM

This site is equally applicable here (although targeted at explaining to linux newbies):

http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

Bookworm_Girl · 09-30-2014, 12:10 AM

Apple has stopped signing iOS 7. Upgrade at your own risk.

Also there was a new iOS 8 bug reported today. If you "Reset Settings", then it may permanently delete iWork files from iCloud (even though data and media are supposed to be unaffected).
http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/29/icloud...ork-documents/

Jessica Lares · 09-30-2014, 12:45 AM

8.1 betas went out to developers earlier today.

ApK · 09-30-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Free RAM is wasted RAM. A decent operating system will keep a small amount of RAM free to allow a new app to be started quickly, but will allow the running apps to use RAM up to this limit.

But wasted RAM is also wasted RAM. Even good operating systems aren't perfect, and neither are all apps.

FlorenceArt · 10-01-2014, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

8.1 betas went out to developers earlier today.

Thanks for the info. How long do you estimate until it's released?

Jessica Lares · 10-01-2014, 09:46 AM

During the October keynote. It still has a lot of the same bugs.

jswinden · 10-01-2014, 05:27 PM

I hope the Yosemite upgrade goes well, but I will be waiting on the sidelines to see how it goes. I still have issues with Logitech mice and keyboards on Mavericks because Logitech never got the drivers sorted out. I like the way Mavericks works, so there isn't much incentive to upgrade unless iOS 8 and Yosemite actually work well with each other and share information in a usable manner. I'm hoping they can get the Mail app to finally work well in Yosemite, but I'm not holding my breath.

Jessica Lares · 10-01-2014, 06:05 PM

I just finished installing the Yosemite GM today. Right now I'm getting my iTunes Library in order. I was tired of waiting.

Most of my apps are Yosemite ready anyway.

They've been specifically sending out new builds of the Mail app, so I think they're close.

I had to setup OS X with just my keyboard until I could navigate Safari to get the Wacom drivers. Worst experience ever, even with VoiceOver.

kyteflyer · 10-03-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

I hope the Yosemite upgrade goes well, but I will be waiting on the sidelines to see how it goes. I still have issues with Logitech mice and keyboards on Mavericks because Logitech never got the drivers sorted out. I like the way Mavericks works, so there isn't much incentive to upgrade unless iOS 8 and Yosemite actually work well with each other and share information in a usable manner. I'm hoping they can get the Mail app to finally work well in Yosemite, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm pretty much in the same boat. Theres a lot of the photography stuff on iOS8 which has changed, and which doesnt work particularly well since there is no photostream, you have to enable the icloud photo thing if you want that and I dont want every photo I take to be auto uploaded to the minimal space I have. I use it for documents and data from other apps. Additionally, the new photos app is why all the changes, but that isnt being released until next year. Its so annoying. I downgraded everything so I could still keep using the photos app as it is, iPhoto, and photostream.

My mail.app has been replaced by an app called Postbox on the computer. It took a while to get used to it, because I had been using mail.app exclusively since 2003, but I now prefer it. I hope it still works in Yosemite. I don't much like the mail app in iOS but oh well I havent found an adequate replacement yet, though I have tried quite a few.

WT Sharpe · 10-04-2014, 04:23 PM

I'm running 8.02 on my iPad Air, but I don't recall okaying the download. Updating to 8.0 was a deliberate decision. Then again, maybe I did. Things have been confusing around here lately.

jswinden · 10-04-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I'm running 8.02 on my iPad Air, but I don't recall okaying the download. Updating to 8.0 was a deliberate decision. Then again, maybe I did. Things have been confusing around here lately.

Maybe it was the ghost of Steve Jobs.

kyteflyer · 10-05-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I'm running 8.02 on my iPad Air, but I don't recall okaying the download. Updating to 8.0 was a deliberate decision. Then again, maybe I did. Things have been confusing around here lately.

You probably didn't. I've noticed more and more intrusive behaviour from Apple as far as downloads go. My phone downloaded 8.01 when I downgraded from 7.1.2, because whilst I was activating and restoring apps, Apple decided that I *really* wanted iOS8 instead. I have now got all auto updating switched off but have to put up with the icon badge alerting me that theres an update... Thank goodness for being able to delete unrequested downloads.

The most annoying aspect of iOS8 for me is actually not to do with Apple. Its that many of the apps I use have now been updated in itunes, BUT they are not compatible with anything less than iOS8. I don''t know why devs are cutting off some of their potential income from new users of devices which cannot (or refuse to) run 8. I know its not about the OS, because I have some when updated which do work. Annoying.

FlorenceArt · 10-05-2014, 12:23 PM

How do you switch off auto update? I haven't found the option in the settings app. Apparently my iPad still hasn't downloaded iOS 8, which I'm grateful for but I don't know why

I suppose it's more work for developers to keep their apps compatible with several OSes. But it's not as bad as it used to be, since you can still download the last version compatible with your OS. I once thought of using iMovie to edit a video I was working on while on the road, but I couldn't because I hadn't yet updated my iPad and iTunes refused to sell it to me. I bought another app instead and never bought iMovie even after I upgraded the iPad.

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09-29-2014, 09:35 PM	#123
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	This site is equally applicable here (although targeted at explaining to linux newbies): http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

09-30-2014, 12:10 AM	#124
Bookworm_Girl E-reader Enthusiast Posts: 4,871 Karma: 36507503 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southwest, USA Device: Kindle Oasis 3; Kobo Aura One; iPad Mini 5	Apple has stopped signing iOS 7. Upgrade at your own risk. Also there was a new iOS 8 bug reported today. If you "Reset Settings", then it may permanently delete iWork files from iCloud (even though data and media are supposed to be unaffected). http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/29/icloud...ork-documents/

09-30-2014, 12:45 AM	#125
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	8.1 betas went out to developers earlier today.

10-01-2014, 09:46 AM	#128
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	During the October keynote. It still has a lot of the same bugs.

10-01-2014, 05:27 PM	#129
jswinden Nameless Being	I hope the Yosemite upgrade goes well, but I will be waiting on the sidelines to see how it goes. I still have issues with Logitech mice and keyboards on Mavericks because Logitech never got the drivers sorted out. I like the way Mavericks works, so there isn't much incentive to upgrade unless iOS 8 and Yosemite actually work well with each other and share information in a usable manner. I'm hoping they can get the Mail app to finally work well in Yosemite, but I'm not holding my breath.

10-01-2014, 06:05 PM	#130
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	I just finished installing the Yosemite GM today. Right now I'm getting my iTunes Library in order. I was tired of waiting. Most of my apps are Yosemite ready anyway. They've been specifically sending out new builds of the Mail app, so I think they're close. I had to setup OS X with just my keyboard until I could navigate Safari to get the Wacom drivers. Worst experience ever, even with VoiceOver.

10-04-2014, 04:23 PM	#132
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,073 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I'm running 8.02 on my iPad Air, but I don't recall okaying the download. Updating to 8.0 was a deliberate decision. Then again, maybe I did. Things have been confusing around here lately.

10-05-2014, 12:23 PM	#135
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	How do you switch off auto update? I haven't found the option in the settings app. Apparently my iPad still hasn't downloaded iOS 8, which I'm grateful for but I don't know why I suppose it's more work for developers to keep their apps compatible with several OSes. But it's not as bad as it used to be, since you can still download the last version compatible with your OS. I once thought of using iMovie to edit a video I was working on while on the road, but I couldn't because I hadn't yet updated my iPad and iTunes refused to sell it to me. I bought another app instead and never bought iMovie even after I upgraded the iPad.

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