Flattr, a micropayment service to show your love

Logseman · 05-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Or so they advertise themselves, as a social micropayment system, created by one of The Pirate Bay's founders. I find the concept nicely fitting to the idea of "you do something great and you get your reward". The idea is pretty much like Karma, but monetised. I found it refreshing, so I signed up and now I have some invite codes. I'll try and experiment with the thing when I'm in Spain ^^

mikemc2 · 05-15-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Logseman

Or so they advertise themselves, as a social micropayment system, created by one of The Pirate Bay's founders. ^^

Is it just me or does anyone else find the idea of entrusting one of the founders of The Pirate Bay with access to any of my money less than appealing? YARRRR!!!

Steven Lake · 05-15-2010, 11:29 PM

Well, I myself am not sold on the whole Social Micro Payment idea. It just feels like you're robbing people in tiny increments. Kind of the ultimate case of nickel and diming. Then again, I may be totally misunderstanding the principle behind this, and it may actually be a really good thing. But yeah, I do agree with the idea that it's bad to go with something touched by ANY of the Pirate Bay guys. Especially given the lawsuits stacked against them, and the fact that they promote something I detest.

SneakySnake · 05-15-2010, 11:32 PM

Interesting idea. Online tipping. hmmmmm

Steven Lake · 05-16-2010, 12:42 AM

Well, if that's all it is, I'm all for it. But again, at the same time, it's run by a former TPB member, which is a no-no in my book.

Logseman · 05-16-2010, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Lake

Well, if that's all it is, I'm all for it. But again, at the same time, it's run by a former TPB member, which is a no-no in my book.

Why do you hold that enmity against TPB? It's a point of mere curiosity.

SneakySnake · 05-16-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Logseman

Why do you hold that enmity against TPB? It's a point of mere curiosity.

I agree. I don't see any reason not to trust them. At least you know who they are....sort of.

m-reader · 05-16-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Lake

Well, if that's all it is, I'm all for it. But again, at the same time, it's run by a former TPB member, which is a no-no in my book.

I'm not defending the TPB crowd, but as far as the security and privacy concerns go I would just as quickly not trust Mr Facebook ...

Otherwise I think this is a fine idea.
Isn't there a PayPal app for iPhone already for this kind of stuff?
A friend of mine sent out a message to all his contacts asking for $10,000 through the app. His dad didn't find it funny at all

Logseman · 05-16-2010, 04:52 AM

I've toyed around with the thing, without still putting money. There is a minimum fee of 2 euro and a maximum of 20 with which you have to tip other people.

GeoffC · 05-16-2010, 05:26 AM

It's an interesting idea, but ......

Steven Lake · 05-16-2010, 08:42 AM

I'm not saying the idea isn't good, but it's run buy a guy who promoted the theft of software and movies, and then laughed in the face of hollywood while doing it. That's my biggest beef with them. I am not against file sharing in its true definition, but what they were doing was blatant promotion of theft. Yes, they did some good too by doing some proper file sharing, but the bulk of their operation focused around illegal activity. Can you trust someone to handle your money after they've had their hands dirtied with copyright infringement and product theft? That's all I'm saying.

Personally, I like the idea of tipping someone in appreciation for what they're doing. I just don't like who's running it. And if I can't trust the owner, I can't trust the service. Now I might be proven wrong, and I'd honestly love to be, but right now I'm not trusting it.

mr ploppy · 05-16-2010, 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Steven Lake;913122]the bulk of their operation focused around illegal activity. QUOTE]

Actually, until fairly recently, what they were doing was perfectly legal in their own country. Any laws that were broken were done so by people accessing the site from other countries. A bit like how people who download some of the free ebooks from this website would be breaking the law if they lived outside America.

05-15-2010, 02:57 PM	#1
Logseman Orisa Posts: 1,999 Karma: 1035571 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Device: Onyx Poke 5	Flattr, a micropayment service to show your love Or so they advertise themselves, as a social micropayment system, created by one of The Pirate Bay's founders. I find the concept nicely fitting to the idea of "you do something great and you get your reward". The idea is pretty much like Karma, but monetised. I found it refreshing, so I signed up and now I have some invite codes. I'll try and experiment with the thing when I'm in Spain ^^

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05-15-2010, 11:29 PM	#3
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	Well, I myself am not sold on the whole Social Micro Payment idea. It just feels like you're robbing people in tiny increments. Kind of the ultimate case of nickel and diming. Then again, I may be totally misunderstanding the principle behind this, and it may actually be a really good thing. But yeah, I do agree with the idea that it's bad to go with something touched by ANY of the Pirate Bay guys. Especially given the lawsuits stacked against them, and the fact that they promote something I detest.

05-15-2010, 11:32 PM	#4
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	Interesting idea. Online tipping. hmmmmm

05-16-2010, 12:42 AM	#5
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	Well, if that's all it is, I'm all for it. But again, at the same time, it's run by a former TPB member, which is a no-no in my book.

05-16-2010, 04:52 AM	#9
Logseman Orisa Posts: 1,999 Karma: 1035571 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Device: Onyx Poke 5	I've toyed around with the thing, without still putting money. There is a minimum fee of 2 euro and a maximum of 20 with which you have to tip other people.

05-16-2010, 05:26 AM	#10
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	It's an interesting idea, but ......

05-16-2010, 08:42 AM	#11
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	I'm not saying the idea isn't good, but it's run buy a guy who promoted the theft of software and movies, and then laughed in the face of hollywood while doing it. That's my biggest beef with them. I am not against file sharing in its true definition, but what they were doing was blatant promotion of theft. Yes, they did some good too by doing some proper file sharing, but the bulk of their operation focused around illegal activity. Can you trust someone to handle your money after they've had their hands dirtied with copyright infringement and product theft? That's all I'm saying. Personally, I like the idea of tipping someone in appreciation for what they're doing. I just don't like who's running it. And if I can't trust the owner, I can't trust the service. Now I might be proven wrong, and I'd honestly love to be, but right now I'm not trusting it.

05-16-2010, 12:31 PM	#12
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	[QUOTE=Steven Lake;913122]the bulk of their operation focused around illegal activity. QUOTE] Actually, until fairly recently, what they were doing was perfectly legal in their own country. Any laws that were broken were done so by people accessing the site from other countries. A bit like how people who download some of the free ebooks from this website would be breaking the law if they lived outside America.

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