05-11-2010, 11:37 PM | #16 |
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If I can download a book for free there is no chance that I would buy it except as a gift. But free eBooks have allowed me to "discover" new authors and have made me buy other works from them and ,as many have said here, I try to only buy eBooks when I can.
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Some thoughts that sprang to mind when reading your initial post.
The other books in the series are all long out of print correct? If so and if the paper book indicates it's book 4 in a series then that could be a big problem right there. I know I for one always start with book one in a series so I wouldn't even consider book 4 right off the bat so I'd skip it because of that if browsing at B&N or Borders and look for a series where I could start at the beginning and if you were an author I knew from way back I'd probably have already purchased the HC. Folks here probably aren't the best source for data on this as if they're going to buy your book it's likely going to be the ebook version not the paper one. Giving away the first three I'd think would be beneficial in getting new readers and getting readers for the new book (I've found many new authors this way). However how many folks are likely to read the first three in e and then the fourth in p? I'd think they'd want e (especially with the number of folks moving to ebooks now) and since they couldn't buy it and you had it up for free they went that route if they were interested in reading it. By the time the official ebook was available most would have either read the one they got for free and that's that or have read it and have no idea it's out officially (where they might decide to purchase an ebook copy from Tor to help support the author) it might be long forgotten for them. While I think it was generous to give away book 4 I'd imagine if it's hurt anything it's more likely to have hurt sales of Tor's ebook version than their print version. I don't know what paper sales are like for Science Fiction these days, but I'd think it'd be one of the top genre's of folks making the switch to ebooks. You mention they're the worst numbers of your career, but maybe they aren't great for others writing in the same genre? Anyway just some thoughts. Last edited by AnemicOak; 05-11-2010 at 11:56 PM. |
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05-12-2010, 12:07 AM | #18 |
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I agree with most of what others above have said.
1) This is probably the wrong place to ask about pbook sales since we're a big group of ebook junkies. 2) People that read ebooks tend to not want pbooks. I won't buy a pbook, except for children's books, ever again. 3) The free books did effect me. I purchased your entire backlist from fictionwise as a result. But I won't buy any of your pbooks. -Marcy |
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I get what everyone's saying about "for me it's ebook or no book." I'm a little that way myself. (Not quite, but I do now greatly prefer to buy an ebook in most cases.) I guess my question is partly trying to get a sense of how pervasive that view is (not that MR necessarily represents the whole spectrum of people who buy ebooks--but you're the only sample I have handy).
Still, I know that there are ebook buyers who also buy paper books. Or who are in the minority in a family of book readers, as I am. So, for instance, I have sometimes bought paper copies of ebooks I read, and given them as Christmas gifts. Quote:
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Downloads of ebook definitely kill paper back sales and I cannot think why it would not - is the whole point of inventing "ebook" to replace casual paperbacks and save trees? I dont think the fact that it's free would hurt that much, as a matter of fact, a free sampler would encourage people to know the author and the book better. But electronic versions would definitely cut phsyical sales. iTunes does kill CD sales at Walmarts even though the downloads are not free (and if you are getting all the songs in the album, you may even be paying more than the CD price tag and for a lower quality format.) Would people still buy CDs after they purchased downloads from iTunes? Obviously some audiophilers still may, but I doubt most peopel would do that. I guess it's same for the books.
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Mind you, I don't think the free downloads are the cause of the problem I'm describing. But I also think they did not have the boosting effect I was hoping for. Except for my backlist, for which I am grateful. |
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It's hard to know on free downloads. For a lot of folks if it's free they'll download it if there's the slightest bit of interest, but would be unlikely to buy it. I don't really get why some pubs have offered freebies that are the latest book in a series or a book in the middle of a series, it makes no sense. Baen does it right with the Free Library by offering the first (and sometimes 2nd and 3rd, etc.) in a series to potentially get you hooked. It's worked with me on a few series from them. Last edited by AnemicOak; 05-12-2010 at 01:00 AM. |
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05-12-2010, 02:45 AM | #26 |
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Jeff: I think you've asked a good question about a complicated issue.
Speaking for myself, I don't typically go back and buy a paperback copy of something I've gotten for free. At the same time, I don't buy a lot of new paperbacks anyway - I typically use the library or buy them used, if I buy them at all. (Since space constraints are a big factor at my house, I'm more likely to buy an electronic copy if I buy anything at all.) Your question raised another issue - something I've been wondering about - and you are the perfect guy to ask about it. You were one of the very first guys whose stuff I read when I first went out onto the internet and started researching about writing science fiction. You've done a lot to support other writers; as such, I'd love to hear your take on the flipside of the issue you've raised. How can we as the reading public (and in some cases writers and wanna-bes) best support an author such as yourself? Do we download free books and send you contributions? Should we buy the backlist from somewhere (Baen, Fictionwise)? And which means more to you - the sale of a new paperback or (perhaps multiple) sales of backlist titles? |
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As far as the options you listed are concerned: 1) Donations buy beer this week, and are a nice personal connection. 2) Buying backlist ebooks helps sales figures and buys beer in a few months, when the royalties trickle in. (Maybe I'll be thirstier then.) 3) Buying a paperback probably buys less beer in the short term. It might not ever reach the author in the form of cash, though it helps to earn out the advance. But it helps the numbers look better to the publisher and the booksellers, and improves the sales potential of this book and future books. Bottom line, there is no clear answer. So do what feels right to you, because everything helps. And what helps most of all is getting out there and generating word of mouth (or of keyboard). |
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I'm not going to claim to be the norm on this topic, because I have no idea what the norm IS in this case.
Speaking specifically to the Chaos Chronicles, I did it all backwards. I've had the first three in paperback for what seems like forever. Sunborn was one of the first "freebies" I picked up...and then promptly used Paypal to donate the pb price equivalent for it and all three of the others. Hope the beer was good! LOL In another case, I picked up a free copy of Karen Marie Moning's book, Darkfever, last summer. By then end of the year, I'd bought everything else she's ever written in ebook form, and copies of 5 of those in paperback, plus one in hardcover, for a friend for Christmas--all new from Amazon, not used. I've also lost track of how many people I've convinced to read those books; at last count before I gave up, it was over 25. So that's 25 new readers for her. Were most of them ebook readers? Yes. But not all the friends and family they recommend to are going to be! Because I read those books, others were recommended to me as things I'd also like. I've picked up over 10 new-to-me authors and series since last summer that are all a direct result of Random House giving me one free book. In each case, I've bought all the books (in ebook form), recommended them in half a dozen places, and bought paperbacks as gifts. We're talking literally hundreds of dollars in sales now--all from one "free" book. Again, I'm not saying I'm "the norm". What I do believe though is that there is simply no way to tell what the overall ramifications of issuing a free book may be. I don't download every free book that's made available, but I end up buying the complete series for about 80% of those I do obtain and read. And if they're good enough to read, they're good enough to recommend to others--many of whom don't have e-readers. |
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