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Old 05-03-2012, 08:07 PM   #316
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Ack, that sounds nasty.

Do we know how long you can safely let a Whack sit there? Do you have the option of not paying when you see it, going to find resources, and then paying it? (I've never had to avoid paying to make one go away.)
They tell you how many cycles - most are one only....
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:08 PM   #317
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Thank you. Thank you (oooh. I've just gone green on my Energy levels).

Does anyone accept Whacks? so far I've always paid them off, as they tend to only take a small amout of Military points (though from previous posts that does seem to vary)?
I have let the ones that promised population go. I haven't seen that they hit anything all that hard. Most of the others, though, will often cost you far more than paying to go away (someone let one of the ones that said it would hit military go and ended up paying about 10x as much by taking it).
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:34 PM   #318
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Anyone know if you can get hit with more than one Whack per Cycle? I got one of the "1% of bucks" hits, which I could afford; now I have to decide whether to spend the rest of my surge points on military or bucks. If I know I'm safe from whacks until the next cycle, I'll throw points into income; if I might get another whack, I should reinforce military. (I could buy assets, but I'd rather wait until lvl 9 when I can get thorium reactors.)
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:00 PM   #319
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Only if you get a multi-cycle whack, have I seen two in one turn.

If anyone has food, need a small donation... d^%* crows...
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:02 AM   #320
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finally got my bliss deficit into a positive, but still stumped on energy. anyone got any tips?
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:06 AM   #321
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finally got my bliss deficit into a positive, but still stumped on energy. anyone got any tips?
Put Thorium Reactors on quickcharge spots, and avoid increasing population until you've caught up with energy. Catching up can take a while.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:01 AM   #322
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Seems to be the epidemic of crows. Luckily I had some food surplus and could take it. Go-away price was 120K+

It is dangerous to leave the whack to do it's dirty work. I had finally reached the green on bliss (thank you all for that), +180 or something. In the morning I found -20K+ waiting for my attention.

I had an idea. In case of heavy bliss-deficit, doesn't it make sense to level up? If I understand correctly, pop will be added to bliss.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:08 AM   #323
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I had an idea. In case of heavy bliss-deficit, doesn't it make sense to level up? If I understand correctly, pop will be added to bliss.
Current Pop gets added to bliss, but you'll still need an extra 500 (needs to be Pop + (Your Level -1) * 500, according to the pop-up blurb) above what you already have just to stay even with where you are already, so levelling will actually make it worse, since you'll be deeper in the hole and digging even farther if you've an Energy/Food deficit as well as your Pop will continue to increase and will need even more Energy, proportionally.

Probably better off surging Bliss assets for a couple of cycles, or selling and re-buying stuff if you have no space left on your grid and can still afford it.

ETA: If you still need Bliss, you're getting all that the system and people send me for the forseeable future, if that's okay with you.

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Old 05-04-2012, 02:28 AM   #324
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Oh yes, bliss me please. I had +2K, thought that it's over, but now with the new cycle it's -10K again.


On leveling up:
Lets say I have on L13 80K pop
I need 13*80K energy, 12*500+80K bliss
By end of the cycle I'll need 14*80K energy, 13*500+80K bliss.
Leveling gives me 80K bliss, but asks extra 80K energy + 500 bliss.

You're right. Dammit, seemed like such a good idea.

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Old 05-04-2012, 02:35 AM   #325
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Oh yes, bliss me please. I had +2K, thought that it's over, but now with the new cycle it's -10K again.
sending some your way now, I have a 100k bliss surplus I can spare my entire hoard of the stuff.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:35 AM   #326
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Oh yes, bliss me please. I had +2K, thought that it's over, but now with the new cycle it's -10K again.
I sent you some bliss and I'll keep you in mind when I get any bliss gifts. I wish there was a way to gift surplus bliss. I have way too much.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:51 AM   #327
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I see they have implemented the colored borders around the gifts showing which resource it contains. Should make things much easier now.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:01 AM   #328
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I'm finally set up and trying to muddle my way through it... no real idea yet what I'm supposed to be doing, but I assume it's going to become more obvious as I go ahead.

I'm Yapyap there as well.
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Oh yes, I remember the beautiful days many cycles ago when I started to run energy deficit because everybody was so blissful... I even wished for bliss-negative gifts.

Thank you all, gentle givers of bliss!
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finally got my bliss deficit into a positive, but still stumped on energy. anyone got any tips?
I think the best advice has already been given here, and I am now starting to get Energy under control (though I've just gone negative again after Levelling Up).

Buy some Energy Assets (a Reactor is a good start), and then surge them to collect Energy, and go a couple or three cycles without levelling up and use the surge points each time to give you more Energy.
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