11-15-2012, 10:45 AM | #466 | |
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First, the iPhone 5 uses a nano-SIM, which is 3 times smaller than a regular SIM card and is certainly not at all the same size as a Micro-SD card. Volumetrically, it's half as large. Secondly, I invite you or our esteemed electronics designer to point out where the "plenty of room" in the iPhone 5 chassis is in the following image of its internals: (Click to enlarge) Then I'd like his or your esteemed opinion of the compromises on, say, battery life that would be required by adding another port. Second, price gouging is a term that can only apply to a coercive monopoly or to a company that sells essential goods after a supply shock, neither of which apply to Apple. The less intelligent members of this board seem to think that companies are obligated to sell their goods at cost. Their sense of entitlement is endearing but tells us nothing interesting about the value of different goods. Apple is, of course, the most successful technology company of all time. I honestly don't know why you people even bother trying to deny that at this point, as if the company was going to fall into the sea tomorrow because it doesn't give its products away to disgruntled malcontents. If I cared, and if I owned Apple stock, I would probably be pretty happy with their performance to date. [Insulting remark removed by moderator.] Last edited by WT Sharpe; 11-16-2012 at 02:30 AM. Reason: Changed oversized graphic to a thumbnail attachment and removed personal insult. |
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11-15-2012, 10:59 AM | #467 | |
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11-15-2012, 11:07 AM | #468 |
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It's amusing (and quick) to read a thread when only half the posts show up.
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11-15-2012, 11:56 AM | #470 |
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11-15-2012, 12:02 PM | #471 |
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Rabbit Rants? Here's a rant for ya:
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11-15-2012, 12:07 PM | #472 |
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I am lumping all the SD family in together, not just full size SD. Micro and Mini SD are compatible, with same pinout, onky difference is foot print. I thought that was obvious since most people keep talking about various tablets with SD support, but most use micro and not full size.
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11-15-2012, 12:17 PM | #473 |
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Considering other phones in the same class have micro SD, it isn't impossible to fit it in. Difficult, yes but not impossible. One phone i have seen more or less had the slot as part of the case, and jumpered over to the logic board. case wall was a hair but thinner in a spot, but you really could not Tell.
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11-15-2012, 12:29 PM | #474 | |
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First off, if you are going to look at expandable memory from a viewpoint of any compromise whatsoever is a failure, there is no reasoning with you. So I'll just say that the competition with expandable memory doesn't seem to be hampered by it in any noticeable way and leave it at that. Second, you full well know what he meant by the term price gouging. Stick to the point please. Nobody is claiming to be "entitled" to anything. Competitors already offer this at no additional cost and people tend to prefer it when given the option. Lastly, we all know Apple is successful and profitable. Today. That doesn't justify charging $100 for $7 worth of memory any more than Android's dominating phone marketshare automatically means it's the superior os for everyone. And it doesn't mean they will continue to see such huge profit margins, especially as their market share dwindles. They've been on this roller coaster before after all. |
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11-15-2012, 12:41 PM | #475 | |
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The difference between a 16GB iPad4 and a 32GB iPad4 is 80 GBP. The difference between a 16GB Nexus 10 and a 32GB Nexus 10 is 70 GBP. Does a difference of 10 pounds mean that Apple is price-gouging but Google isn't? Or is Google price-gouging too? |
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11-15-2012, 12:49 PM | #476 | |
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They're following the same model with no SD card slot in the Nexus devices. Graham |
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11-15-2012, 01:15 PM | #477 | |
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But no, I don't like that Google does it either and have said so before. Edit: I missed that you said Nexus 10 instead of 7. I haven't been paying much attention to the 10, but I see it charges $100 for an extra 16GB just like Apple does. Very disappointing. Last edited by pl001; 11-15-2012 at 01:24 PM. Reason: update |
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Like any design choice, we can assign this one pros and cons. PROS: - cheap, swappable storage CONS: - compromises on size or shape of device - AND/OR compromises on internals of device, i.e. battery life, heat dispersion, etc. - increased complexity of device; need to introduce file system (currently absent in iOS) So when someone claims the absence of SD storage comes down to greed, it's not only reductive but also unintelligent. Certainly, Apple makes its biggest margins on storage upgrades. That is one reason why the option is not available. It is not the only one, and it is particularly mendacious of a professed electronics designer to say so. There is also the issue of the general anti-Apple bias that runs throughout these forums, where members excoriate Apple for practices which others engage in without comment. When that bias is pointed out, it's called a rant. So be it. Quote:
The fallacy of your line of thinking here is that you assume competitors offer an equivalent product with extra features for less than Apple. The reality is that they offer a different product, with different design choices, many of which people consider inferior to Apple's value proposition. And as pointed out above, in some cases (Nexus line), they do not offer a SD storage option at all. Where is the rage? Whither the accusations of greed? Quote:
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