Clara 2E Kobo Clara 2E Thread

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Of course, the Clara 2E is being compared to the Paperwhite and the new Kindle is compared to the Nia.

Look, I'm not going to switch to Kindle but the new Paperwhite and now the new basic Kindle are very nice devices and a very good deal for the price (though of course there's the $20 surcharge for ad removal).

My apologies - I forgot all about the Nia. I keep thinking the Clara is the base model

[NiLuJe]

That's because the Nia is a weird glitch that probably shouldn't have happened ;o).

[John F]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Of course, the Clara 2E is being compared to the Paperwhite and the new Kindle is compared to the Nia.

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For me, the size starts the comparison.

Paperwhite - Libra 2

Kindle - Nia

? - Clara 2e

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

I'm sure the new basic Kindle will dissuade some from switching. It is a great device at a great price, but "overdelivering on their competition"? Not so much. The 2E has better lighting, note taking, and of course the "feel good" eco thing.

Those are significant points of difference for Kobo to market. I doubt they'll be enough to overcome ecosystem inertia for many, but they are added value features that (imo) mean Amazon is not "overdelivering" against them.

And much better eBook management. Series, descriptions, word and page counts, collections, eBooks able to be updated without them being considered newly added, and no need to jailbreak. It's just another world away because of the firmware.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

For me, the size starts the comparison.

Paperwhite - Libra 2

Kindle - Nia

? - Clara 2e

Kindle 2022 - Clara HD 2e
Previous Kindle - Nia

That's how I see it.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Kindle 2022 - Clara HD 2e
Previous Kindle - Nia

That's how I see it.

I believe it is called the Clara 2e.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

That's because the Nia is a weird glitch that probably shouldn't have happened ;o).

Exactly!

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

That's because the Nia is a weird glitch that probably shouldn't have happened ;o).

I think it should have happened, but at $80-$85, not $100.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And much better eBook management. Series, descriptions, word and page counts, collections, eBooks able to be updated without them being considered newly added, and no need to jailbreak. It's just another world away because of the firmware.

I agree, all of that, plus better annotation export (three methods) and not having your covers deleted.
Also a real "off" so battery doesn't run flat if not using it for a few months.
Ironically though the Kobo doesn't need jail-breaked it's so good that most people don't need KOReader. Plato or patches.

[cellaris]

All devices of any brand have unique features and what makes them good or bad is whether they suit our tastes and preferences better or worse. I have owned 10 Kobo devices and most of the features you comment on are not important to me. So if I had to rate it on those things my rating would not be particularly positive, and it would not stand out from other brands. I don't think the original Kobo software is that good (not bad either) and I think the patches (and KOReader) improve it significantly. But that doesn't make Kobo devices better or worse than other brands, just different. These dialectical competitions between brands and devices to see which one is better seem absurd to me. I sincerely believe that the main brands on the market have quality devices for reading enjoyment, and that the choice between a Kobo, a Kindle, a PocketBook, an Onyx Boox or any other major brand will always depend on our subjective needs and not on a supposed objective quality.

That said, the Kobo Clara 2E looks very good, as does the new entry-level Kindle for its range (or the PW5, which I think is an excellent device).

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cellaris

All devices of any brand have unique features and what makes them good or bad is whether they suit our tastes and preferences better or worse. I have owned 10 Kobo devices and most of the features you comment on are not important to me. So if I had to rate it on those things my rating would not be particularly positive, and it would not stand out from other brands. I don't think the original Kobo software is that good (not bad either) and I think the patches (and KOReader) improve it significantly. But that doesn't make Kobo devices better or worse than other brands, just different. These dialectical competitions between brands and devices to see which one is better seem absurd to me. I sincerely believe that the main brands on the market have quality devices for reading enjoyment, and that the choice between a Kobo, a Kindle, a PocketBook, an Onyx Boox or any other major brand will always depend on our subjective needs and not on a supposed objective quality.

That said, the Kobo Clara 2E looks very good, as does the new entry-level Kindle for its range (or the PW5, which I think is an excellent device).

With the Kindle is that I cannot stand KFX and KF8 does not allow kerning. I do think Amazon has taken the Kindle in a poor direction. KFX is a format designed to force DRM. Even when the publisher does not want DRM, Amazon forces it with KFX. All of the KFX features could have been implemented with KF8.

[Deobulakenyo]

Clara 2E and Kindle PW5 comparison video from Good E-Reader:

https://youtu.be/6-3EYdh-AO8

[deleted2]

Originally Posted by Deobulakenyo

Clara 2E and Kindle PW5 comparison video from Good E-Reader:

https://youtu.be/6-3EYdh-AO8

Still stuck in their PDF and manga comparaisons. And how both system work. Nothing for the user experience.

Anyways. I ordered a Clara 2E. Should receive it next friday or so.

I regret changing from the Libra to the Libra 2. It's a bit too heavy for me, as I like to read holding it in one hand. I like the 7-inch screen. We'll see.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Deobulakenyo

Clara 2E and Kindle PW5 comparison video from Good E-Reader:

I still think the Kobo software still dithers better. Have a look at same image on both at 7:26 and 8:06. With the image in the middle of the screen there is much more detail on the Kobo.

But one thing that was really wrong with this comparison was that they used different fonts at different sizes. They should have had them at what may be a normal size for reading with the same fonts at the same size.

[MGlitch]

Honestly do we even need to debunk the videos from GoodeReader at this point? We know they are biased and poorly researched (save for when they steal reports from others).