iPad Would you change your current iPad2 for the iPad3?

[GlennD]

Originally Posted by Harmon

No executive who is worth the title would accept that answer. Executives who listen to "reason" don't get much done. Steve Jobs. QED.

When you're a CSO responsible for making sure your company (an insurance company) complies with HIPAA regulations, and face the possiblity of criminal charges and jail if your company doesn't comply, you listen to reason.

And you look for options - right now we're looking at third party solutions that allow us to manage devices even when they're owned by the end user. But that's not out of the box, obviously.

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by GlennD

I'm speaking purely from an IT perspective. I'm involved right now with evaluating business "need" (ie, executives WANT an ipad) with security requirements. Ipads don't meet our requirements.

Or you could get them iPads so they can enjoy themselves with Angry Birds and other non job-related tasks... This way the iPads at least wouldn't pose a threat to IT security (maybe company security)...

[jojoba]

I wasn't planning to upgrade as I love my iPad2 so much and I'm very happy with it. However, since I'm going to the US soon, I realised that if I buy two 3gen iPads and resell one at home (where they are more expensive), it wouldn't cost me anything to upgrade if I also sold my iPad2. So now I'm considering it. Since I use my iPad primarily to read academic articles, the retina display would be a bonus. However, I'm a bit put off by all the yellow screens that people are complaining about. I'm just going to have a look in an Apple store when I get to the US and then see what I think.

[monkeyluis]

Originally Posted by johnnyb

Or you could get them iPads so they can enjoy themselves with Angry Birds and other non job-related tasks... This way the iPads at least wouldn't pose a threat to IT security (maybe company security)...

Or right now Draw Something. Lol. Taking even more productivity away.

[Andy_T]

Originally Posted by GlennD

A little offtopic, but...

There's a major hiccup with the ipad as a business device. Businesses can't manage them remotely. Apple does have an 'ipad configurator' but it requires physically plugging in the device to the computer that manages the configuration. I know executives love them (ours certainly do!) but when you're talking about proprietary or HIPAA protected information being synced with the 'cloud', IT shops still have big concerns.

Take a look at the AFARIA environment.
Our company certainly uses it to configure, manage and wipe iphones and ipads remotely from a central location. Of course, it costs a bit.

Best regards,
Andy

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by GlennD

When you're a CSO responsible for making sure your company (an insurance company) complies with HIPAA regulations, and face the possiblity of criminal charges and jail if your company doesn't comply, you listen to reason.

And you look for options - right now we're looking at third party solutions that allow us to manage devices even when they're owned by the end user. But that's not out of the box, obviously.

In my 40 years of working in an organizational setting, I have never met an effective executive who was also entirely reasonable. Reasonable people become managers. Unreasonable people become executives. Truly reasonable people become technical specialists.

I don't mean to denigrate executives. Steve Jobs is an excellent example of an unreasonable executive, and face it, without Jobs, Apple would have been a second or third rate computer hardware manufacturer struggling for market share.

To an executive, a reason something can't be done is an excuse, not a reason. That's not to say that sometimes the excuse isn't valid - merely that a real executive is looking for reasons he can do things, not reasons he can't.

So...the executive tells you he wants something that can't be done, and you wind up figuring out how to do what can't be done - aka "looking for options".

Nothing wrong with that, so long as it doesn't spill over into illegality.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by Harmon

In my 40 years of working in an organizational setting, I have never met an effective executive who was also entirely reasonable. Reasonable people become managers. Unreasonable people become executives. Truly reasonable people become technical specialists.

I don't mean to denigrate executives. Steve Jobs is an excellent example of an unreasonable executive, and face it, without Jobs, Apple would have been a second or third rate computer hardware manufacturer struggling for market share.

To an executive, a reason something can't be done is an excuse, not a reason. That's not to say that sometimes the excuse isn't valid - merely that a real executive is looking for reasons he can do things, not reasons he can't.

So...the executive tells you he wants something that can't be done, and you wind up figuring out how to do what can't be done - aka "looking for options".

Nothing wrong with that, so long as it doesn't spill over into illegality.

That's a very interesting way to see things. Which may be right, may not.

In my opinion, as you go up in an company's structure (and I work for the biggest IT company in the world) priorities and goals change. The CEO may be more interested or focus on metrics and actual results and will see the actual worker as an instrument to get things done. If you're the actual worker, your point of view is in terms of getting things done, you don't care about metrics , your paycheck is not as good, but you go to bed with less stress and more quality of time.

Using of not using an iPad as a valid company device has a lot of technical and business implications. It's not only to ensure is secure, but see the actual benefit or profit that will generate on users. That also needs to be quantified, which is difficult too. And if you deal with sensitive stuff like databases, on my case, the things start to get more and more complex because like other said, you need to protect your or clients information if you lose the iPad or device to avoid legal issues or even worse, losing money and giving data away to competitors.

[BobLenx]

No, more than content with my iPad2. Now next year when iPad4 (aka the "Newer iPad" comes out - maybe yes.

[monkeyluis]

Originally Posted by BobLenx

No, more than content with my iPad2. Now next year when iPad4 (aka the "Newer iPad" comes out - maybe yes.

Thee new new iPad. Lol.

[FlorenceArt]

I just had a look at the new iPad and compared it with my iPad 2, and I must say I'm tempted. Contrary to what I thought, even with my weak sight I could see the difference. Added to the fact that I'm frustrated with the limited storage capability of the iPad 2 (I was cheap and got the 16 Gb model)...

[revfish]

One of the reasons we upgraded is the first gen iPads aren't running the apps well anymore. I think it has to do with the developers producing apps for the 3 and not taking into account the older models having more limited processing power. One fo the games I play recently updated and it now it crashes all the time. Luckily, we got our shipping notification today and I should have it on Tuesday, a week earlier than expected.

[ilovejedd]

Originally Posted by revfish

One of the reasons we upgraded is the first gen iPads aren't running the apps well anymore. I think it has to do with the developers producing apps for the 3 and not taking into account the older models having more limited processing power. One fo the games I play recently updated and it now it crashes all the time. Luckily, we got our shipping notification today and I should have it on Tuesday, a week earlier than expected.

Actually, I think it's because apps are being optimized for the iPad 2 which features a dual-core CPU vs single-core on the first iPad and has double the amount of RAM.

[slayda]

I would only swap if 1) I was as rich as Bill Gates or 2) if it were a straight trade or nearly so.

[lovelygirl]

i have to say that's really the problem... i have used my ipad 2, and i think it's ok now, my husband want to buy me an new iPad 3 for me as the birthday, but i'm not sure whether it's necessary or not? maybe i 'd like to use my ipad 2 still and choose another gifts...

[kacir]

Originally Posted by jojoba

I'm just going to have a look in an Apple store when I get to the US and then see what I think.

Compare the new iPad with your iPad2 and you will buy the new one. The difference is screen quality is very obvious.