V3 in my hand - Page 8

JSWolf · 09-22-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fjell_strom

Hey everybody, I've received my V3 and I've made a video featuring it on Youtube. Please tell me what you think concerning the Vizplex issue.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gPBo81PPEwg

And a link to the Cybook video for comparison:

http://www.teleread.org/blog/?p=6889

Cheers all. Anyone have any other questions, now that I have the device?

All I can say is that your V3 page turn speed is slower then my Sony (non-Vizplex) Reader (PRS500) page turn speed using the built-in fonts.

fjell_strom · 09-22-2007, 08:56 AM

Yeah, thanks JSWolf. Although I was showing a .pdf file in the video, .wol files using the built-in fonts do not make the page turning go any faster.

fjell

JSWolf · 09-22-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fjell_strom

Yeah, thanks JSWolf. Although I was showing a .pdf file in the video, .wol files using the built-in fonts do not make the page turning go any faster.

fjell

If that is supposed to be Vizplex and Vizplex is supposed to be faster, then either you didn't get Vizplex or the software inside the V3 is just slow.

MikeF74 · 09-22-2007, 09:51 AM

The actual screen change seemed pretty quick. Are you sure it isn't just slow processing after pressing a button?

fjell_strom · 09-22-2007, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF74

The actual screen change seemed pretty quick. Are you sure it isn't just slow processing after pressing a button?

No, I'm not sure. I have no idea, nor any way to compare or verify. I'm waiting for the input of some others with V3's to chime in. In fact, I think I'm going to start a new thread about this.

fjell

astra · 09-22-2007, 11:04 AM

Well, either I have seen a different video or ...I wanted to say it is definitely Viziplex because it turns pages almost at once. No latency at all. On Sony it takes 1/2 sec.

JSWolf · 09-22-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by astra_lestat

Well, either I have seen a different video or ...I wanted to say it is definitely Viziplex because it turns pages almost at once. No latency at all. On Sony it takes 1/2 sec.

If it's Vizplex, then the software is slow. (IMHO) I don't think that's all that good then.

aapezzuto · 09-23-2007, 06:42 AM

Best I can tell it looks like a software issue. The screen has great contrast and refreshes very quickly. caching pages would greatly improve performance of the screen refresh, but how would you judge what to pre-render? Your asking for a low power device with a small processor to do predictive profiling of the user.

OK, I'm like everyone else, I love to look at a perfect uncut cake while eating it (i don't think thats quite the saying... but?) however if jinke releases the SDK in a timely fashion then I don't think this will be an issue. Heck with as cheap as memory cards are you could create a pre-rendered file format, and have the processor just move data from the card to the screen. (wasting resources where they are abundant always seems like a good idea till you need them later, hu?)

|2eason · 09-23-2007, 07:57 AM

There are people on this forum with the non-Vizplex version of the V3. If they could replicate the tests and conditions of the Vizplex video, we'd have a fair test that takes the software out of the picture.

fjell_strom · 09-23-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |2eason

There are people on this forum with the non-Vizplex version of the V3. If they could replicate the tests and conditions of the Vizplex video, we'd have a fair test that takes the software out of the picture.

Exactamundo. Anyone willing?

Also, it should be noted that Bookeen have apparently already succeeded in making incredibly fast page turning possible.

fjell

JSWolf · 09-23-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fjell_strom

Exactamundo. Anyone willing?

Also, it should be noted that Bookeen have apparently already succeeded in making incredibly fast page turning possible.

fjell

If what you have is VizPlex then the page turn speed is being hampered by the software. I would guess the software is not very well optimized. You should have faster page turns then with my Sony.

Elak · 09-24-2007, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If what you have is VizPlex then the page turn speed is being hampered by the software.

Page turn speed also depends on screen controler. For now V3 has the same chip as V8, so screen refresh rate is the same. VizPlex results in more bright and contrast look.

LVD · 09-24-2007, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Elak

Page turn speed also depends on screen controler. For now V3 has the same chip as V8, so screen refresh rate is the same. VizPlex results in more bright and contrast look.

Lbook V3 adopt same controller with Cybook(OEM from PVI), and same Waveform, therefor the speed of updating screen also should same.

JSWolf · 09-24-2007, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elak

Page turn speed also depends on screen controler. For now V3 has the same chip as V8, so screen refresh rate is the same. VizPlex results in more bright and contrast look.

In that case, then it definitely is the software lagging the page turns.

bojan · 09-24-2007, 03:04 PM

I see a lot of people complaining about the page turn speed on Hanlin, which is about 1.5 to 2 seconds max.

If you think this is slow, what would you say about Mobipocket reader on the iLiad with 2-3 seconds page turn speed!

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09-22-2007, 08:56 AM	#107
fjell_strom Enthusiast Posts: 26 Karma: 82 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Freiburg, Germany Device: HanLin V3 with Vizplex? Hmmmmmm...	Yeah, thanks JSWolf. Although I was showing a .pdf file in the video, .wol files using the built-in fonts do not make the page turning go any faster. fjell

09-22-2007, 09:51 AM	#109
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	The actual screen change seemed pretty quick. Are you sure it isn't just slow processing after pressing a button?

09-22-2007, 11:04 AM	#111
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	Well, either I have seen a different video or ...I wanted to say it is definitely Viziplex because it turns pages almost at once. No latency at all. On Sony it takes 1/2 sec.

09-23-2007, 06:42 AM	#113
aapezzuto Zealot Posts: 116 Karma: 693 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: none	Best I can tell it looks like a software issue. The screen has great contrast and refreshes very quickly. caching pages would greatly improve performance of the screen refresh, but how would you judge what to pre-render? Your asking for a low power device with a small processor to do predictive profiling of the user. OK, I'm like everyone else, I love to look at a perfect uncut cake while eating it (i don't think thats quite the saying... but?) however if jinke releases the SDK in a timely fashion then I don't think this will be an issue. Heck with as cheap as memory cards are you could create a pre-rendered file format, and have the processor just move data from the card to the screen. (wasting resources where they are abundant always seems like a good idea till you need them later, hu?)

09-23-2007, 07:57 AM	#114
\|2eason Connoisseur Posts: 61 Karma: 56 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: Tatung Tablet	There are people on this forum with the non-Vizplex version of the V3. If they could replicate the tests and conditions of the Vizplex video, we'd have a fair test that takes the software out of the picture.

09-24-2007, 03:04 PM	#120
bojan Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 68 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Slovenia Device: iRex iLiad	I see a lot of people complaining about the page turn speed on Hanlin, which is about 1.5 to 2 seconds max. If you think this is slow, what would you say about Mobipocket reader on the iLiad with 2-3 seconds page turn speed!

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