10-22-2010, 05:16 PM | #106 | |
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10-22-2010, 05:20 PM | #107 |
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I understand and even agree, just don't want it to seem that that is par for the course.
At least Science has a method of detecting and correcting unlike true dogmas like religion as Harry said here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=98 |
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10-22-2010, 05:30 PM | #108 | |
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But Kenny, when I point out an unexplored question in physics, HarryT and NYRath jump down my throat, because the result might conflict with their Dogma. .. |
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10-22-2010, 05:36 PM | #109 | |
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It has nothing to do with dogma from what I see. You and I also disagree on Global Warming, nothing to do with dogma that I see. The science is clear. |
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10-23-2010, 05:57 AM | #110 |
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Not at all; I simply pointed out that you had not actually put forward a scientifically meaningful proposal, and therefore there was nothing to be taken seriously or otherwise.
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10-23-2010, 10:05 AM | #111 | |
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Is this an issue of form, content, or guild membership? (When I first pointed this potential loophole out, it was in the context of providing a S/F writer a undisproven excuse for a FTL drive for a story, which seem to vastly offend several other people here.) |
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10-23-2010, 03:33 PM | #112 | |
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I would be interested in counter-examples, of course. |
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10-23-2010, 06:19 PM | #113 |
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Interestingly, there have been theoretical physicists that have come up with possible means to exceed the speed of light. Discovery science has documentaries that discuss this. They do point out that it will require some scientific breakthroughs to accomplish.
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10-23-2010, 08:22 PM | #115 | |
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A one-ee and a two-ee ... that's how Lawrence Welk started his band back in the dark ages. More musical sophisticates get beyond the 2/4 and 3/4 and 4/4 thing. Like, how about an odd-meter or two ?? 5/8 or 7/8 or alternating 3/4-6/8 with a 9/8 thrown in? Why is everyone so focused on contemplating what's up with the universe? Life is short and you're dead for a long time. Listen to music and chill out! Try something new! Forget the rolling stone-heads and the twangy gui-tar bands. How about some Igor Stravinsky or Ahmad Jamal? Or Steve Reich and Geri Allen. You'll have to forgive me. I took all the math classes I could stand on the way to a degree in applied math. [burp] Hate to sound like a grouch, but debates about global warming I can get on CNN. |
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I heard about tachyons and tardyons some years ago. We are basically in a Universe of tardyons ( sounds like being late to school... :-)
And that there is a barrier region where tachyons cannot slow down to, and tardyons cannot speed up to, the barrier of the speed of light. I have read a few claims years ago that it sounds like the old Sound Barrier problem... It isn't the same type of thing of course. A jet fighter doesn't get heavier, and closer to be an infinitely flattened plane, as it approaches the speed of sound. I still see occasional claims that show me that some folks out there don't understand the Speed barrier and Light Barrier differences. Haven't seen that here, just wanted to mention it happens. |
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http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3v.html#barrier Almost always it comes up because that big bully Scientific Knowledge is telling the author/fan/whatever You Can't Do That. You can't have a perpetual motion machine because the second law of thermodynamics forbids it. You can't have a starship with a FTL starsdrive because of that meany Einstein and the law of causality. And so on. So these things come up as people desperately attempt to refute scientific theories they find inconvenient. James Nicoll called this the SFnal Lysenkoist Tendency: when actual, tested science contradicts some detail in an SF story, attack the science. Last edited by nyrath; 10-25-2010 at 01:34 PM. |
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