Sigil-0.9.10 Released - Page 6

BetterRed · 08-09-2018, 06:24 PM

@NotJohn - England still prices horses in guineas (not sure about rest of UK or Ireland), and maybe some high value bespoke items such as Savile Row suits, Purdey guns, etc.

Another historical idiosyncrasy of UK money relates to the units in which Gilts (Bonds) were priced. Today it's a £100.00, but until fairly recently (i.e. last 50 years or so) the unit price was a weird amount that escapes my memory - something like £133.33'.

BR

Errata - my mother rescued that comptometer from being sent to the scrap heap.

Thasaidon · 08-09-2018, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex2002ans

Also written as £2 11s. 8¼d.

£sd = pound + sterling + pence

.......

with the British £sd converted to decimalization in 1971:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_Day

Not quite right it was:-

£2 11s. 8¼d. = £sd = pounds+ shillings + pence

I have on my wall a set of UK pre decimal coins and also have an old £1 and a ten shilling note. For me it is pure nostalgia as I was 22 years old when British currency went decimal. I can even remember being sent to the shop to buy a certain kind of loaf of bread which was so many pence and one farthing.

exaltedwombat · 08-10-2018, 07:41 AM

And that's why British people can do maths, while Americans can only do math.

Tex2002ans · 08-10-2018, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thasaidon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex2002ans

Also written as £2 11s. 8¼d.

£sd = pound + sterling + pence

Not quite right it was:-

£2 11s. 8¼d. = £sd = pounds + shillings + pence

One of those brain farts where your brain thinks one word and writes another one. I wasn't too far off! What's the difference between a few dollars/cents sterlings/shillings? :P

RbnJrg · 08-10-2018, 04:50 PM

When I apply the command "Mend and Prettify Code" the cursor goes to the end of the file where I'm working; that is, it doesn't remain in the same place previous to "Mend and Prettify Code". That behaviour was not present in the previous version of Sigil.

DiapDealer · 08-10-2018, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RbnJrg

When I apply the command "Mend and Prettify Code" the cursor goes to the end of the file where I'm working; that is, it doesn't remain in the same place previous to "Mend and Prettify Code". That behaviour was not present in the previous version of Sigil.

He's right. The cursor stayed put in 0.9.9. But even though the view stays relatively the same after M&P in 0.9.10, the cursor will move to the very end of the file.

The recent commit (after 0.9.10) to address another cursor issue, does not alleviate this.

KevinH · 08-10-2018, 06:29 PM

Yes, anytime an underlying file is overwritten that CodeView is currently showing in its QTextEdit widget, the cursor will move to the end of the file unless saved and restored somehow.

Given M and P can and does make wholesale changes to whitespace in the file, a cursor offset into the previous version (before M and P) can and will be pretty meaningless. M and P is not an editing command inside CodeView. M& P is taking the current contents of the file out of the QTextEdit Widget and passing it through gumbo with some extra smarts and then reloading it back in behind the scenes. So yes the cursor position from before is pretty meaningless.

DiapDealer · 08-10-2018, 06:54 PM

I see what you're saying. The cursor has always moved to the end of the file whenever M&P has made changes--even in previous versions. I just happened to test a file/epub in Sigil v0.9.9 where M&P had nothing to do. Only when there's nothing for M&P to do does the cursor retain its position.

Just tried it with Sigil v0.9.9 and the cursor moved right to the end. Repeated the M&P and the cursor remained. Same with v0.9.7. There is no new behavior here.

RbnJrg · 08-11-2018, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I see what you're saying. The cursor has always moved to the end of the file whenever M&P has made changes--even in previous versions. I just happened to test a file/epub in Sigil v0.9.9 where M&P had nothing to do. Only when there's nothing for M&P to do does the cursor retain its position.

Just tried it with Sigil v0.9.9 and the cursor moved right to the end. Repeated the M&P and the cursor remained. Same with v0.9.7. There is no new behavior here.

Then, would it be possible for Sigil to remember -before M&P- the line of the file where it is and after M&P goes to that very line? Now I do that manually so I think it could be possible by design.

DiapDealer · 08-11-2018, 08:54 AM

Kevin explained fairly well why retaining the cursor position from before an M&P cleanup would be meaningless after the M&P cleanup. We have no way of predicting (or tracking) what the cursor-position differential from before, to after, might be. We can't know what we can't know.

All we could do is retain the cursor position of a document that no longer exists. Restoring it in the new document wouldn't put you where you want to be.

Something that's simple to do manually is often difficult (or impossible) to do programmatically.

KevinH · 08-11-2018, 09:45 AM

No promises but I might be able to get the tag path to the block element that contains your current position and then try to get back at least to the block tag (assuming mend does not remove that tag and does not insert any new tags between the html tag and it) within the updated html file.

RbnJrg · 08-11-2018, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

No promises but I might be able to get the tag path to the block element that contains your current position and then try to get back at least to the block tag (assuming mend does not remove that tag and does not insert any new tags between the html tag and it) within the updated html file.

That would be great!

Turtle91 · 08-11-2018, 07:19 PM

We were having this difficulty when developing Marvin - when transitioning between portrait/landscape the current position would be lost and you'd have to swipe backward/forward to get back to where you started from. One of the solutions that was suggested was similar to what Kevin mentioned, but instead of remembering the tag, it was to remember a section of text (which wouldn't be changed with a M&P) and then "search" for that text to reposition.

KevinH · 08-11-2018, 09:02 PM

Sigil could search for a text phrase or selection but uniqueness of any text fragment can not be guaranteed. Hopefully the enclosing tag will be possible.

BobC · 08-12-2018, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Baby-boomer Brits might remember the old UK currency, not only did it have two separators (spaces, slashes, or less often periods), the units weren't decimal and it had fractions too!

So - £2.11.8¼ x 3 = £7.14.4¾ (I think)

BR

Not quite right -

3 x 1/4d = ¾d
3 x 8d = 24d = 2s
3 x 11s = £1 13s
3 x £2 = £6

In total £7 15 0¾ you are eightpence short.

BobC

08-09-2018, 06:24 PM	#76
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,650 Karma: 26960534 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@NotJohn - England still prices horses in guineas (not sure about rest of UK or Ireland), and maybe some high value bespoke items such as Savile Row suits, Purdey guns, etc. Another historical idiosyncrasy of UK money relates to the units in which Gilts (Bonds) were priced. Today it's a £100.00, but until fairly recently (i.e. last 50 years or so) the unit price was a weird amount that escapes my memory - something like £133.33'. BR Errata - my mother rescued that comptometer from being sent to the scrap heap. Last edited by BetterRed; 08-09-2018 at 06:27 PM.

08-10-2018, 04:50 PM	#80
RbnJrg Wizard Posts: 1,566 Karma: 7043711 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Rosario - Santa Fe - Argentina Device: Kindle 4 NT	Bug? When I apply the command "Mend and Prettify Code" the cursor goes to the end of the file where I'm working; that is, it doesn't remain in the same place previous to "Mend and Prettify Code". That behaviour was not present in the previous version of Sigil.

08-10-2018, 06:29 PM	#82
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,713 Karma: 5444398 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Yes, anytime an underlying file is overwritten that CodeView is currently showing in its QTextEdit widget, the cursor will move to the end of the file unless saved and restored somehow. Given M and P can and does make wholesale changes to whitespace in the file, a cursor offset into the previous version (before M and P) can and will be pretty meaningless. M and P is not an editing command inside CodeView. M& P is taking the current contents of the file out of the QTextEdit Widget and passing it through gumbo with some extra smarts and then reloading it back in behind the scenes. So yes the cursor position from before is pretty meaningless. Last edited by KevinH; 08-10-2018 at 06:34 PM.

08-10-2018, 06:54 PM	#83
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,586 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I see what you're saying. The cursor has always moved to the end of the file whenever M&P has made changes--even in previous versions. I just happened to test a file/epub in Sigil v0.9.9 where M&P had nothing to do. Only when there's nothing for M&P to do does the cursor retain its position. Just tried it with Sigil v0.9.9 and the cursor moved right to the end. Repeated the M&P and the cursor remained. Same with v0.9.7. There is no new behavior here. Last edited by DiapDealer; 08-10-2018 at 06:57 PM.

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08-10-2018, 07:41 AM	#78
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	And that's why British people can do maths, while Americans can only do math.

08-11-2018, 08:54 AM	#85
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,586 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Kevin explained fairly well why retaining the cursor position from before an M&P cleanup would be meaningless after the M&P cleanup. We have no way of predicting (or tracking) what the cursor-position differential from before, to after, might be. We can't know what we can't know. All we could do is retain the cursor position of a document that no longer exists. Restoring it in the new document wouldn't put you where you want to be. Something that's simple to do manually is often difficult (or impossible) to do programmatically.

08-11-2018, 09:45 AM	#86
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,713 Karma: 5444398 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	No promises but I might be able to get the tag path to the block element that contains your current position and then try to get back at least to the block tag (assuming mend does not remove that tag and does not insert any new tags between the html tag and it) within the updated html file.

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Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,117 Karma: 18727091 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	We were having this difficulty when developing Marvin - when transitioning between portrait/landscape the current position would be lost and you'd have to swipe backward/forward to get back to where you started from. One of the solutions that was suggested was similar to what Kevin mentioned, but instead of remembering the tag, it was to remember a section of text (which wouldn't be changed with a M&P) and then "search" for that text to reposition.

08-11-2018, 09:02 PM	#89
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,713 Karma: 5444398 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Sigil could search for a text phrase or selection but uniqueness of any text fragment can not be guaranteed. Hopefully the enclosing tag will be possible.

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