Onyx readying M90 9.7" ebook reader - Page 6

jian1 · 04-10-2011, 06:27 PM

How well does it support PDF comparing to Pocketbook? This thing seems to be very promising, eInk Pearl, and handwriting ability.

Dulin's Books · 04-10-2011, 07:13 PM

It does not have the easy column view read that PocketBook has but Onyx has a very easy to use selection zoom and pan.

whopper · 04-11-2011, 02:23 AM

Why the non wifi have a faster processor?

HarryT · 04-11-2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by whopper

Why the non wifi have a faster processor?

Read back in the thread; this has already been answered. See post #55 and the few following it, a page or so back in the thread.

Billi · 04-13-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zetmolm

On the Booxusers forum there is an explanation why the M90 has the "old" 532 MHz processor: the new 800 MHz processor does not support the touchscreen very well. That probably also explains why the new 61 series with the new processor does not come with a touchscreen (yet).

Zetmolm - or any other technical expert - could you please be so kind to explain why a newer and faster processor doesn't work as well as the older model? I must admit, to me this sounds not very logically.
Thanks, and a link where I can read it myself will do.

grumpy3b · 04-13-2011, 02:30 AM

it would logically come down to something in the firmware needed to support the new faster CPU AND the touch layer in the same box. We take it for granted these days but not too long ago we all hunted for specific BIOS'es to run certain hardware (CPU, mice, etc.). Right now slate computing devices are at about the same maturity level in hitting that point where it is a given that everything will run with everything else hardware and software wise.

I doubt there is any existing standard interface for adding touch panels to a slate device be it an ereader or a slate PC.

Zetmolm · 04-13-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Billi

Zetmolm - or any other technical expert - could you please be so kind to explain why a newer and faster processor doesn't work as well as the older model? I must admit, to me this sounds not very logically.
Thanks, and a link where I can read it myself will do.

I'm not a technical expert, but this is what I understood: this new processor has built-in power management features that make it go to sleep whenever it's doing nothing for a short time. Whenever it is requested to do something it needs some wake-up time. When you push a button to make it do something you won't notice that part of the processing time of your request is just waking up. But apparently the product designers of Onyx found the lag that users would experience when using the touch screen unacceptable.

What I also read somewhere: Onyx is working on new readers with yet another processor. I would assume that they selected a processor that will work fine with a touchscreen. BTW, in these new readers they are planning on replacing the Wacom touchscreen (requiring a stylus) by the same technology that is used in the current Sony readers (based on infrared sensors). And they'll have Pearl screens. We should learn more about these readers in a matter of months.

Billi · 04-13-2011, 07:09 AM

Thank you very much for your explanations, grumpy3b and Zetmolm, that helps me a lot and sounds logically even to me.

Onyx Europe · 04-13-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Billi

Thank you very much for your explanations, grumpy3b and Zetmolm, that helps me a lot and sounds logically even to me.

On the frontpage onyx-boox.com I made a comparison between the Onyx Boox M-series products so you get a clear view what's the difference between the devices.

Onyx Europe · 04-15-2011, 04:28 AM

Here's a picture of a sample Onyx Boox m90 compared to the A60

hansokumake · 04-17-2011, 10:14 AM

Onyx M90 and Kindle DXG comparison: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/5GuL4nbUJ1c/

hakim · 04-17-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hansokumake

Onyx M90 and Kindle DXG comparison: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/5GuL4nbUJ1c/

The chinese website doesn't load completely and the video doesn't play. Maybe you could upload that video to youtube or some other website that doesn't reside in china?

Onyx Europe · 04-17-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hakim

The chinese website doesn't load completely and the video doesn't play. Maybe you could upload that video to youtube or some other website that doesn't reside in china?

I've downloaded the movie and uploaded it to youtube.

Siedler · 04-17-2011, 05:54 PM

Hmm in the video the page turn takes quite a long time. (at pos 3:00) when going from the front cover to the second page especially when you consider the very short moment the kindle needs. Will this be improved in the final release?

Onyx Europe · 04-18-2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Siedler

Hmm in the video the page turn takes quite a long time. (at pos 3:00) when going from the front cover to the second page especially when you consider the very short moment the kindle needs. Will this be improved in the final release?

I think the refresh time will be much better when the final version is ready.
It strikes me that the startup of the Kindle DX takes really long!

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04-10-2011, 06:27 PM	#76
jian1 Banned Posts: 140 Karma: 5766 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Onyx Boox M92	How well does it support PDF comparing to Pocketbook? This thing seems to be very promising, eInk Pearl, and handwriting ability.

04-10-2011, 07:13 PM	#77
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	It does not have the easy column view read that PocketBook has but Onyx has a very easy to use selection zoom and pan.

04-11-2011, 02:23 AM	#78
whopper Addict Posts: 350 Karma: 22726 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Device: Boox max 2	Why the non wifi have a faster processor?

04-13-2011, 02:30 AM	#81
grumpy3b Banned Posts: 246 Karma: 14967 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 2 (x2), Kindle 1, a couple old PDAs	it would logically come down to something in the firmware needed to support the new faster CPU AND the touch layer in the same box. We take it for granted these days but not too long ago we all hunted for specific BIOS'es to run certain hardware (CPU, mice, etc.). Right now slate computing devices are at about the same maturity level in hitting that point where it is a given that everything will run with everything else hardware and software wise. I doubt there is any existing standard interface for adding touch panels to a slate device be it an ereader or a slate PC.

04-13-2011, 07:09 AM	#83
Billi Wizard Posts: 3,388 Karma: 14190103 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin Device: Cybook, iRex, PB, Onyx	Thank you very much for your explanations, grumpy3b and Zetmolm, that helps me a lot and sounds logically even to me.

04-15-2011, 04:28 AM	#85
Onyx Europe Distributor Posts: 114 Karma: 66 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Netherlands Device: Onyx Boox M91S	Here's a picture of a sample Onyx Boox m90 compared to the A60

04-17-2011, 10:14 AM	#86
hansokumake Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 540 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: none	Onyx M90 and Kindle DXG comparison: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/5GuL4nbUJ1c/

04-17-2011, 05:54 PM	#89
Siedler Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: none	Hmm in the video the page turn takes quite a long time. (at pos 3:00) when going from the front cover to the second page especially when you consider the very short moment the kindle needs. Will this be improved in the final release?

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