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Speaking of fonts, if you have an eBook where you need to embed font(s), then you should be able to have it as a KF8 only eBook since it won't work with Mobi. If you need features of KF8 that are not backwards compatible, then yes, a single format should be all that's for sale. The problem (as I see it) is because of Mobipocket, a lot of publishers are crippled and thus, they cannot make the eBook as good as it could be.
Earlier today I finished reading Bucky F&%@ing Dent and in the eBook, the publisher put in some tables of baseball statistics/scores and they were put in as graphics. The problem was that the graphics were too small to be clearly read on a hi-res 6.8" screen. I could make out some just. If I had a 6" screen, none of it would have been readable. I used my iPhone's camera to zoom in so I could read easily. But, this could have been done as a table and it would have been readable. |
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ANY competent (caveat word!) formatter can do wonders even with KF7, IF they know what they're doing. We use a variety of wee tricks, to ensure that the KF7 is nice, if not as awesome as the KF8. I personally put the books on my OWN K2, to test them, to ensure that they still look good. If a book "needs" embedded fonts--like, say, for example, Kanji--then we bygod make them into images, and we embed them--inline. Yup. If the need is significantly greater--for example, I just had a book that had 8 different characters, all of whom needed (yes, you got it) their OWN font for their journal entries, I sit down and I discuss the KF7 challenges with the client, and how we can ensure that the reading public "gets" whatever it is that they are trying to convey, via the use of the myriad fonts. We'll make adjustmnents or suggest changes to the book itself (e.g., "Wolfie's Journal, Stardate X...") that can be hidden for KF8, and displayed in KF7. THAT is real "eBook" formatting. The challenge is, after all, conveying the content, the tone, and the meaning of the DT Book to the Digital sphere, and you can't just run something through Calibre and call it finished. /done being hubristic and braggy, now. Quote:
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How do you handle letting the reader know that these are embedded fonts in the eBook? Unless it's a KFX eBook, spans don't work when using anything Publisher Font (as we recently found out). Also, do you add in font-family: serif? Quote:
Many eBooks have crappy low-res graphics that have words that you're supposed to read but can't because the publisher is an ass and has no idea how to make an eBook work with current devices. |
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I think I have an advantage over a lot of formatters simply because I'm, ahem, well-seasoned, being {mumble}years old. To diverge just a bit--a few years back--about 4-5 now--I bought David Simon's "The Corner" in ppbk. OMG. I wanted to scream. The thing was in 8 or 9 point, and I could not find any point, with my progressive lenses, that was comfortable to read. Even the smallest difference in distance from my eyes--from the top of the page to the bottom, for example, meant I was constantly, constantly, moving the book in-out-back-in-out-back so I could "comfortably" read it. Or worse, behaving like a bobble head, constantly moving my noggin around to find the best part of the progressive lenses for that bit of page. It was a horror show. I gave in about 50 pages in (of the 800+, mind you), and bought the damn Kindle book, so I wouldn't suffer any longer. My point in bringing that up is, I assume that readers will increase (or decrease) font sizes; I assume that they don't have perfect eyes. If I can read it COMFORTABLY on all our devices, at the shop, then, it's approved. If not, it's not, period. We redo the graphic. Sometimes--and yes, this makes my guys nuts--I'll make my guys redo manually a graphic that a client's given us, to the point of manually creating an entire table in HTML, and THEN taking the capture of it. It has to be as perfect as possible. When I think back on the books in '09-'10, and the old 600x800 standard, I shudder. When we get books back to tweak, you can bet your bippy we bygod fix those old graphics, too. (OR, other people's books; we get a lot of the older books from those who have fallen by the wayside.) Hitch |
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Actually, that's the extension that Calibre uses. Amazon delivers AZW files--but, those can be KF8 books or FXL eBooks or, or or. Not necessarily KFXes. (They also still deliver other file types, as well.) If we're going to do that, then, fine, call them AZW but that is not a crapload more precise than "MOBI," and honestly, Wolfie is being pedantic AND, moreover, not even necessarily correctly pedantic, as Amazon themselves call them MOBI files. (And in the Kindle Publishing Guidelines, too!) I correspond with the Tech guys at Seattle, and they don't run around calling them KF8 or KF7 or PRC or Bob's Big EBook Format. In fact, I would argue--backed up by the KPG--that Amazon's habit is to refer to the KF7 as a "Mobi 7" file, when striving to distinguish one from the other, rather than simply "mobi" and "KF8." Hell, look at the KPG. Hell, I don't even know--because I don't really deal in AZW, other than as a buyer--if there is only a KF8 in an AZW, or not. I do so much xferring of files around, when we're checking--and sometimes, in checking SAMPLES from uploaded books, etc.--I freely admit that my eyes glaze over unless I have to rip one apart to figure out why some type of formatting has done the FUBAR Dance. I'm a firm believer in precision in language...but at this juncture, I'm not sure that Wolfie's firm distinction is the correct one. No offense, Wolfie, but events, Amazon and the KPG conspire against you. Until KF7 dies, I fear that Wolfie's angst over this shall continue. Spoiler:
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GASP! They are calling it a KF8. filetype now? It is just KF8! I INSIST you stop telling people false information and begin calling it KF8 now, and not KF8.! Look at all this confusion that is being sown due to not using Logical Punctuation. I insist that we should all become users of Logical Punctuation here! My way or the highway! P.S. Amazon thinks it is called the KF8. format. Don't they know having a period at the end of their extension would cause havoc among OSes? CLEARLY, we have a dunce on our hands! P.P.S. Only I, Tex, is the ultimate correct person! Last edited by Tex2002ans; 10-27-2017 at 06:14 PM. |
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The boldness slider is enabled only when a built in font is selected. It is disabled when "Publisher font" is chosen. For a sideloaded KF8 there is no interaction between the boldness slider and the embedded font, since the embedded font is only used when "Publisher font" is selected. For a sideloaded KFX the boldness slider affects the chosen base font, but has no impact on how the embedded font is rendered. That is pretty much what I expected. |
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I know I could fix it by editing the book and stripping the fonts, but I shouldn't have to, and to be honest, I'm too lazy. If, when I finish the book, I decide that it's one I want to read again, I'll probably fix it. I *really* shouldn't have to, though, especially considering it's a book from a BPH. Shari |
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