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12-20-2009, 02:16 PM | #62 |
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This is as much Sony's fault as it is B&N's fault. If the blame needs to fall it should be on the IDPF and Adobe.
The IDPF failed because they should have made it clear that you can't market an ebook as ePub if you apply DRM to it. It should have been clear to market it as the proprietary DRM you applied. Adobe has failed because they have come out with multiple versions of their DRM but haven't come out with market branding to distinguish them. Their spokesman has referred to this as "unfortunate short term confusion for the consumers". B&N should be marketing the ebooks as ACSv4 with a note that ACSv3 rendering software can't read it. Sony should be marketing their ADE reading software as ACSv3. Instead everyone wants to pretend they are using an open standard and it's the consumer that pays the price. |
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12-20-2009, 02:41 PM | #63 | |
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12-20-2009, 02:44 PM | #64 | |
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12-20-2009, 04:04 PM | #67 | |
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That is in contrast with a Sony DRM protected book I purchased yesterday where the PC had to be registered with ADOBE and my PRS 505 also had to be registered with Sony. Thus, that book file is locked into those two registered devices. The BN method is far more flexible and less subject to errors. However, it would be far better if the BN method was adopted by the big three of Amazon, Sony and BN so we could read our books on anyone's devices. In both cases the books are ePub files as can be determined by viewing the directories on one's PC with Explorer. Last edited by sirmaru; 12-20-2009 at 04:09 PM. |
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12-20-2009, 04:43 PM | #69 | |
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The problem I see is that someone read that B&N was going with Epub, but failed to read that it was implementing its social DRM. |
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12-20-2009, 04:46 PM | #70 | |
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The problem is they DON'T SAY it's different, just like they didn't say that you could only lend a book one time. They are being slimy. Plus the no returns is just wrong. Can you say anti-customer? I keep hoping these companies will some day understand, but they keep proving me wrong. Last edited by kennyc; 12-20-2009 at 04:51 PM. |
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Right on the Ebook tab under getting started there is an option that says supported devices.... The sample obviously had no DRM - If I was going to try this I would have downloaded some free books - made sure they had DRM and tried to read those. I just feel that personal responsibility comes into play - it isn't always someone elses fault. |
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If you are angry enough about it, follow it up with a letter to your state attorney general's consumer fraud division, copy to B&N & your credit card company. Last edited by Harmon; 12-20-2009 at 11:00 PM. |
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Of course, one could follow my rule, which is to always assume that whatever you are trying to buy won't work on your reader, unless it is clearly stated otherwise. |
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I fail to see the point of the topic (nook is bad for ebooks). I see that the nook is great for eBooks -- it reads pretty much everything bought elsewhere and uses modern software. The other e-ink devices are clearly inferior to nook and by being outdated they are bad for ebooks.
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