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You can't kill any anti-social action no matter how serious or trivial. I'm amazed that people keep repeating such a spectacularly weak argument.
This is also true of the thread title. You will never kill (enter here any anti-social action except homicide) and (re-enter here said anti-social action) will never kill you. Quote:
Uploaders probably have, in private, some choice words to say about the courage of those who only download and never upload. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 10-04-2012 at 08:05 PM. |
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10-04-2012, 08:30 PM | #47 | |
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And this is exactly why it's more efficient to investigate the uploaders than the downloaders. I realize that torrent is uploading while you're downloading, but with uploaders I mean those who keep uploading after the download is completed. To leave the downloaders alone and investigate the uploaders by traditional means and get waterproof evidence against them is, as far as I can see, the most efficient way to limit the piracy. Certainly the most cost-efficient way. |
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Loved the article.
If we accept that crippling the e-Universe is not a likely option then I really believe the only sensible option is to invest your time in making people want to give you money. It's a tough adjustment to make for businesses so used to demanding, but these are the businesses that are starting to become the beggars in this game. If they don't adapt they may die or they may choose to withdraw and then we'll lose what they can produce, but there's always going to be the innovator out there offering an alternative. It might take a different form and we might lose some aspects of the blockbuster as it currently exists, but talent itself does not cost millions of dollars and clever people can make/exploit new markets when old markets are no longer viable. I look on with interest. |
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10-04-2012, 10:18 PM | #51 |
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The article was bang on. But don't worry, nothing will change. Human inertia guarantees it.
As long as there is cheap storage and cheap communications (and that will only change if Civilization collapses, because there are too many other uses for the same infrastructure for it to be abandoned for the demands of I.P. owners.), there will be piracy. Squeeze the Internet, up pops encrypted VPN. Squeeze them? You'd be squeezing every big corporation in the world, and they won't let that happen. Even if that happens, there's sneakernet. I saw 64GB SD chips for the mid $30 USD range range. That's 150+ hours of CD quality FLAC files, or 8 maxed out DVDs, a maxed out BLU-RAY, or who knows how many books (the mind boggles - 64,000?). Pass them to you friends by hand. Or encrypted in the mail. What's in them? Only you and The Shadow know...(and the recipient, of course) Shucks, I can build an encryption methodology that's take weeks for the NSA to crack. (Wouldn't do Hollywood any good, besides, I don't deal with the MAFIAA.) So the status quo will remain, and the MAFIAA will keep trying to bring on a police state to try to bring back the past. Good Luck... |
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If you only download out of print books, all is forgiven. But I suspect that darknet literature overwhelmingly consists of popular titles. |
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Actually, it is not true for all forms of piracy. I think the cable and satellite companies have stopped cable / satellite theft.
Looking toward the future, quantum cryptography may be unbreakable. Last edited by Barty; 10-04-2012 at 11:09 PM. |
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Ignoring rare, out-of-print, and other special cases, which I suspect will always have people "pirate", I believe the best way to reduce piracy is to make it so simple, economical, and ubiquitous to get legitimate copies that it isn't worth the effort to pirate an e-book...
If a person can find what they're after at B&N for $0.99 or at most $2.99, I'm unlikely to do the work to find a pirate copy 'cause it's not worth the effort... Keep charging $10, $12, or $14 for a popular ebook that's already made money as a hardcover and more money as a paperback (doesn't matter whether it's true or not, we're talking the PERCEPTION of having made money), and on which he/she can't recoup a portion of their investment by selling it to Half Price Books, and piracy will continue to burgeon and increase in popularity. |
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I liked the article. Make things freely available that I can watch/read/listen to on a variety of devices if I so choose at a reasonable price. Although how one determines what is "reasonable" is a good question ... And stop, whenever possible (but can be difficult sometimes due to rights issues; maybe those need to be reviewed) limiting access based on region. That really irritates me sometimes. |
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Please don't put words into my mouth. I do not want to see draconian laws; I want to see just laws, and justice includes punishing those who take the income away from ordinary people like me who try to make a living from writing software, books, or whatever. Piracy is not just something which affects large companies; it also impacts the normal person, too, and as things stand at the moment there is no justice for the little guy like me, while the slime who pirate content are getting away with it with impunity.
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My two cents, FWIW...
1. These companies do themselves no favors with all the various ways they feed into an "us vs them" atmosphere. Especially with their attempts to create an “every reader of a book should pay us for that book, or they are thieves" mentality... It doesn't escape the notice of all those who share books through an office/neighborhood/family/friends/whatever “library." (The fact that it isn't technically the same, since a copy could be made and kept, is academic, if not pedantic, since (wild guess) most of them read them only once, anyway.) Could someone abuse it? Yeah, but people tend to live up or down to expectations; the honor system is better PR than the Captain Queeg approach. 2. Making downloading a crime is a bad idea; it would be a poor use of limited resources and provoke bad will due to the authorities investigating/prosecuting people they “catch" downloading books... when there are so many reasons/circumstances a jury would consider excusable. We can discuss the ethics forever, but as a juror, if I'm asked to actually condemn a person as a criminal for something like downloading a copy of a book he paid for in paper or is not for sale in his region, etc., I'm more likely to vote to fine the plaintiffs and authorities who wasted my time and tax dollars. A few trials like that would be a PR, if not precedent, nightmare for the prosecution and plaintiffs, IMO. (Dang, I got carried away with my 2 cents. ) Last edited by Piper_; 10-05-2012 at 01:57 AM. |
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I'm not "money grabbing". I give away a lot of stuff for free (all the eBooks I upload to MR, for example), but I do eBooks for fun, and software for money. I don't think I'm being unreasonable in expecting to get paid for that software by people who choose to use it. I don't know how you make your living, but, whatever you do for a job, you probably expect to get paid for it. Current copyright law does not provide a practical method for creators of intellectual property to ensure that they do get paid for their work. Last edited by HarryT; 10-05-2012 at 03:08 AM. |
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