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View Poll Results: What opinion do you have for/against Watermarks as opposed to full-scale DRMs | |||
Both are equally BAD. | 38 | 25.68% | |
Watermark is better than DRMs. | 108 | 72.97% | |
DRMs is better than Watermark. | 1 | 0.68% | |
Both are equally GOOD | 1 | 0.68% | |
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09-28-2012, 01:22 PM | #46 | |
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These don't interfere at all with reading on a computer, but could interfere with reading on a mobile screen. They're also locked PDFs--uneditable--which means you can't crop out the margins etc to fit them on small pages. I wind up stripping the lock and manually removing the watermark when I want to read them on an ereader. I suspect that most people don't have the tech skills or the patience for this; the watermarking, with the buyer's name/ID clearly visible, will prevent them from being widely shared on filesharing sites. They may get handed around among friends, but gaming groups have *always* shared books; that's not a drastic change from the pre-ditigal business model. |
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09-29-2012, 02:39 PM | #47 | |
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Asssuming you are referring to content distributed with DRM, ebooks, Music and video DVDs etc. as not being accessible on any device in the near or far future, I find it a bit unlikely. Ebooks in particular as they are generally distributed in more than one format including paper. Also music/video. As many containers such as Vinyl, BetaMax, 8-track became inconvenient for the average consumer, the works themselves were remastered on CDs and DVDs. Not saying that the death of epub or mobi would not be a blow to many consumers, just that the works themselves would probably not become totally unavailable to conservationists or anyone else. Helen |
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09-29-2012, 04:03 PM | #48 | |
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What if the Rosetta Stone had been encrypted ? Would we be able to read old Egyptian ? Should we count on conservationists to keep our data ? Will that be enough ? Didn't the Ancient Library of Alexandria fall ? And much shorter term, I'd like my children and grandchildren to be able to sift through my e-library without having to hunt down the "last remaining functioning Kindle" and maybe finding out the files unavailable to them. |
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With most works, I grant this is not much loss, except to historians and anthropologists who'll want to use that info to track trends. However, in the long run, the torrent networks may be the best cultural repositories we have for early 21st century texts. Libraries, after all, don't have a way to carry most ebooks at all. |
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09-30-2012, 05:04 AM | #50 |
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That's why we have copyright deposit libraries. In the United States, for example, it's a criminal offence not to send the Library of Congress a copy of any copyrighted work. Whether or not they choose to keep it is up to them, but you MUST send them a copy of your eBook.
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09-30-2012, 07:23 AM | #51 |
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Watermarks are actually worse because the hacking/cracking communities will be less motivated to crack a DRM system that's not as aggressive as a full-blown copy lock.
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09-30-2012, 07:28 AM | #52 |
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That sounds like a benefit to me, not a disadvantage.
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09-30-2012, 08:24 AM | #53 | |
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You might be surprised to learn that most people contributing code to DRM-removal programs aren't really interested in helping people remove any and all identifying features of an ebook that could be traced back to an individual person/purchaser. They're not interested in any zeitgiest-y "all knowledge should be freely available/exchanged" movement. That kind of idealism is mostly limited to a small subset of the users of such DRM-removal tools. No, most code contributors are only interested in granting the ability to format shift and to move ebooks freely from one device to another. Nothing loftier than that is involved. I'm not saying nobody's ever going to write software that "cleans" watermarked ebooks ... I'm just saying I'm fairly positive it's not going to come from any entity you might have come to "know and trust." That entity fully supports the use of digital watermarking in place of current encryption-based DRM schemes (for personal "purchases") ... or so I've heard. |
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09-30-2012, 08:55 AM | #55 |
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Watermarking sounds allright, it would let the author know how their ebook has travelled around the network, perhaps sending a list of emails to the author so that the author can inform readers about future books, or ask for donations I suppose
But I don't like things that restrict reading potential. |
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But, I hate to see my book messed up with useleess text. Last edited by EowynCarter; 09-30-2012 at 11:30 AM. |
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09-30-2012, 11:32 AM | #60 |
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I've seen visible watermarking. On the Harry potter books for one. I'll rather it be visible... So you can remove it. I hate though that my e-book could be traced to me, more on principle than acctual fear of getting the reader stollen or anything. It's mistrusting your customers.
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