Hacks Turn off your wireless-2.5 doesn't work with mobidedrm! - Page 3

SensualPoet · 06-10-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Snorkledorf

As a test I just tried MobiDeDRM on an .azw book I bought after updating to 2.5.2, and indeed the script no longer works, with a "no key found, maybe the PID is incorrect" error. This was a book downloaded via computer for USB transfer to the Kindle in question.

I expected as much, but it's good to check these things out for oneself.

OTOH, if you using Kindle4PC -- even the latest edition -- and download NOT to your computer but to Kindle4PC -- then the non-script tool works fine. The only oddball bit is the title of the book in MyKindleContent -- at the file level, not what is displayed -- is the internal Amazon ASIN book number. But you can simply rename it and it works fine.

Snorkledorf · 06-10-2010, 08:14 AM

Good to know about K4PC! I'll have to start mucking around with that.

pdurrant · 06-10-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

On a risk-adjusted basis, I am obsessive-compulsive

Surely you mean compulsive-obsessive? I've often thought it ought to have the words in alphabetical order

Sydney's Mom · 06-10-2010, 10:43 AM

OCD But you had me going, there!

Sydney's Mom · 06-10-2010, 03:54 PM

Well, it took a little while, but I was able to install Kindle4PC, change the file to read only (darn, but they make it hard to see the actual program!) and decrypted a book and a sample I had downloaded. So, it looks like I am back in the book buying business, and can go back to whinning about not getting the update!

bwaldron · 06-10-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

So, it looks like I am back in the book buying business

brecklundin · 06-10-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Well, it took a little while, but I was able to install Kindle4PC, change the file to read only (darn, but they make it hard to see the actual program!) and decrypted a book and a sample I had downloaded. So, it looks like I am back in the book buying business, and can go back to whinning about not getting the update!

don't forget to disable the auto-update setting in K4PC or there will be a risk they could change things in that quickly and easily.

chilady1 · 06-10-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Well, it took a little while, but I was able to install Kindle4PC, change the file to read only (darn, but they make it hard to see the actual program!) and decrypted a book and a sample I had downloaded. So, it looks like I am back in the book buying business, and can go back to whinning about not getting the update!

I get that with the new 2.5.2 bin, the scripts no longer work. But what I want to make sure I understand is this whole K4PC thing. Based on the comments are folks saying that you should (1) download a book to K4PC and (2) use the scripts on this version of the book to decrypt the book and (3)load the book onto my Kindle DRM free?

Hope I have this right, do I? If I have violated any board rules, Moderators please feel free to remove this post, didn't mean any harm. Sometime I am not sure what is legit to post here vs. what isn't.

wallcraft · 06-11-2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chilady1

Based on the comments are folks saying that you should (1) download a book to K4PC and (2) use the scripts on this version of the book to decrypt the book and (3)load the book onto my Kindle DRM free?

It is obviously possible to download a DRM-ridden version directly to your Kindle, but if you want a DRM-free version then the K4PC route you describe seems to be the best available today. There are several reasons why you might want to do this, for example: a) fix any formatting issues, or b) keep an archive copy that Amazon can't screw with, or c) also read on a device from another company.

SpiderMatt · 06-11-2010, 05:50 AM

There's always going to be options. One thing growing up as a digital native has taught me is that hackers never stop. I'm frequently amazed at people who toil away at making content for free (both legally and illegally). There is almost always a fix on the horizon. I don't really find the K4PC option all that inconvenient, either. If you're stripping DRM then you're already on the computer. Even if you download a book to your Kindle while you're away, you can always open up the Kindle software when you get home or when connect your laptop to wifi somewhere and download and deDRM what you purchased on the go. Besides, I've been anxiously awaiting this update, so I'm certainly not going to pass it by when I have the chance to upgrade.

Skydog · 06-15-2010, 02:17 AM

I've been reading the above posts and have a another thought.

In theory, if one ensures the Whispernet remains off, manually downloads the 2.5.2 update and updates their device, Amazon would have no way of knowing that one's Kindle has been updated. As long as Whispernet remains off, I would think that any subsequent book purchases (downloaded to computer for transfer as opposed to device) would be DRM'd via the old PID scheme and, therefore, could still be liberated with tools mentioned. Of course, if/when Whispernet is activated that would presumably change everything.

Has anyone tested this yet?

clarknova · 06-15-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skydog

I've been reading the above posts and have a another thought.

In theory, if one ensures the Whispernet remains off, manually downloads the 2.5.2 update and updates their device, Amazon would have no way of knowing that one's Kindle has been updated. As long as Whispernet remains off, I would think that any subsequent book purchases (downloaded to computer for transfer as opposed to device) would be DRM'd via the old PID scheme and, therefore, could still be liberated with tools mentioned. Of course, if/when Whispernet is activated that would presumably change everything.

Has anyone tested this yet?

That seems plausible to me.

BTW, who could have possibly foreseen this situation arising?

poohbear_nc · 06-15-2010, 09:49 AM

So - if you still have a K1 - in addition to a DX - and purchase a book and have it sent to the K1 - this book will still have the original DRM scheme and will be able to be de-DRMed using existing scripts?

slm · 06-15-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

So - if you still have a K1 - in addition to a DX - and purchase a book and have it sent to the K1 - this book will still have the original DRM scheme and will be able to be de-DRMed using existing scripts?

Yes. Actually, you can just save to the computer, telling it to create the book for the K1; you don't have to send it to the K1. (I do this all the time.)

Skydog · 06-15-2010, 12:08 PM

Is there a specific version of Kindle4PC that is required to do as discussed?

06-15-2010, 02:17 AM	#41
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,262 Karma: 7406665 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Libra Colour, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Oasis3, Voyage	How about this option? I've been reading the above posts and have a another thought. In theory, if one *ensures* the Whispernet remains off, manually downloads the 2.5.2 update and updates their device, Amazon would have no way of knowing that one's Kindle has been updated. As long as Whispernet remains off, I would think that any subsequent book purchases (downloaded to computer for transfer as opposed to device) would be DRM'd via the old PID scheme and, therefore, could still be liberated with tools mentioned. Of course, if/when Whispernet is activated that would presumably change everything. Has anyone tested this yet?

06-15-2010, 12:08 PM	#45
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,262 Karma: 7406665 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Libra Colour, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Oasis3, Voyage	Is there a specific version of Kindle4PC that is required to do as discussed? Last edited by Skydog; 06-15-2010 at 12:24 PM. Reason: typo

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06-10-2010, 08:14 AM	#32
Snorkledorf Blue. Not sad...just blue Posts: 218 Karma: 1267018 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Japan Device: Ridibooks Paper Pro	Good to know about K4PC! I'll have to start mucking around with that.

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Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,895 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	Well, it took a little while, but I was able to install Kindle4PC, change the file to read only (darn, but they make it hard to see the actual program!) and decrypted a book and a sample I had downloaded. So, it looks like I am back in the book buying business, and can go back to whinning about not getting the update!

06-11-2010, 05:50 AM	#40
SpiderMatt Grand Arbiter Posts: 447 Karma: 1574837 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arizona Device: iPod Touch, Amazon Kindle, Motorola Droid	There's always going to be options. One thing growing up as a digital native has taught me is that hackers never stop. I'm frequently amazed at people who toil away at making content for free (both legally and illegally). There is almost always a fix on the horizon. I don't really find the K4PC option all that inconvenient, either. If you're stripping DRM then you're already on the computer. Even if you download a book to your Kindle while you're away, you can always open up the Kindle software when you get home or when connect your laptop to wifi somewhere and download and deDRM what you purchased on the go. Besides, I've been anxiously awaiting this update, so I'm certainly not going to pass it by when I have the chance to upgrade.

06-15-2010, 09:49 AM	#43
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