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09-13-2013, 09:33 PM | #151 | |
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The objection to BREIN trying to force retailers to provide client information is that it is a violation of privacy, not that they're not willing to pay to acquire it. Furthermore, neither Mivo nor I argued that a copyright infringement that does no harm (because the copier was not going to buy the book under any circumstances) wasn't an infringement. Just as paying for information that violates privacy laws doesn't mean it is not an infringement on those laws. |
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09-13-2013, 09:40 PM | #152 |
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Ah! Here is the problem. You have copyright law backwards in your mind. Society has granted creators limited control over the works to reward and encourage creation. Before copyright law, anybody was free to copy anything as they wished. Any rights creators have are because they were given to them. They did not start out with complete control and have that whittled away over the years.
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09-13-2013, 10:13 PM | #153 | |
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And once such rights have been granted they should be enforced by society. Last edited by HansTWN; 09-13-2013 at 10:17 PM. |
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09-13-2013, 10:17 PM | #154 | |
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Copyright was meant to balance things out and encourage creation. Legal or not, I do not think I have a right to take something for nothing against the rights holders will. Those that feel otherwise, that is thier choice. On a far larger scale, the government of China can and does legally coopt an entire village despite protesters setting themselves on fire. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/wo...anted=all&_r=0 Legal or not, I question whether it is at all ethical or right in either case. |
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09-14-2013, 04:58 AM | #155 | |
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Even the European Court of Justice decided about if its legal to resell used computer programs. In the news is often spoken about "used software" but actual the Court just spoke about computer programs. Last edited by samy2; 09-14-2013 at 05:03 AM. |
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09-14-2013, 08:19 AM | #156 | ||
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Verdict: Legal protection of computer programs – Marketing of used licences for computer programs downloaded from the internet Press release: An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his ‘used’ licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet Quote:
I understand eBook != software, but I am curious, based on the same reasoning, as to the possibility of applying the same verdict to eBooks. |
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In Germany a Court recently decieded the that this is only for "computer programs" and Ebooks are not computer programs You said: Quote:
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But yes, that's only for software, not for media, though if someone took a media-related case to a court, the outcome might be similar. |
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In ancient times the story tellers relied on the community to provide for them. If the story tellers starved there were no stories. Nothing has really changed.
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09-15-2013, 10:24 PM | #161 |
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Really, you think that storytellers didn't work the land and didn't go hunting or fishing, just told stories? If that would be true, at the first famine they would have all been left to die.
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