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Old 09-12-2007, 06:35 PM   #1
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That means I can compare this against the Sony PRS-500 Portable Reader System and give everyone a run-down on the features of the Cybook Gen3. I'll be posting my opinions at Baen's Bar and at MobileRead as well as our own NAEB website so please stay tuned. In the mean time, please feel free to go to Bookeen's own website to see the features list and sample photos of it in action.
http://delphidb96.blogspot.com/2007/...ok-reader.html
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:41 PM   #2
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:43 PM   #3
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Derek,

Maybe you could hit upon this quickly during your writeup:

How glossy is the black finish? An overly glossy finish would turn me off slightly from a stylistic standpoint... I prefer more matted or flat finish. Is it so glossy that it would reflect lamplight or sunlight while trying to read?
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:03 PM   #4
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Lots of different formats have never been a problem with Bokeen in the past.
I am more interested in battery life, startup time and a suspend mode.
All the things promised and then not delivered by Irex.
For all other things I get a notebook or laptop.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:03 AM   #6
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Lots of different formats have never been a problem with Bokeen in the past.
I am more interested in battery life, startup time and a suspend mode.
All the things promised and then not delivered by Irex.
For all other things I get a notebook or laptop.
Sorry - why do you want a "suspend mode"?

The whole point about the Sony Reader, for example, is that it doesn't suspend - the operating system runs constantly, so it "turns on" instantly (because it's never actually turned off). Don't you think that's a lot better than a suspend mode?
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:42 AM   #7
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Still, it's a kind of suspended mode since the screen turns off.

And sure, that's something we all want to know because bookeen knew
we wondered about it but never said anything...
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:46 AM   #8
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Still, it's a kind of suspended mode since the screen turns off.

And sure, that's something we all want to know because bookeen knew
we wondered about it but never said anything...
I would say it works like a hold on button on mp3 player. Basically preventing you from accidently pressing any buttons when you don't want to. Otherwise the reader is up and running as usual.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:14 AM   #10
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Still, it's a kind of suspended mode since the screen turns off.

And sure, that's something we all want to know because bookeen knew
we wondered about it but never said anything...
No, it's completely different .

The purpose of a suspend mode is to save battery power while providing a reasonably rapid start-up. The Sony Reader doesn't suspend - the operating system runs constantly, and the battery drains constantly, regardless of whether or not you use the machine.

Compare that with, say, the iLiad, where you can leave it switched off for a month, and the battery will (pretty much) retain its charge. Leave a Sony Reader for a month and you'll have a completely flat battery.
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I'm not sure, but that doesn't sound quite right HarryT.

It'd be more accurate to say the Sony is nearly always in a suspend mode. It only fires up the processor and brings the ram out of low power refresh when you ask it to turn a page, but then it goes back into suspend. That's why it'll last a month on a single change. However the Sony doesn't have an off switch (or so it would seem) or suspend-to-disk. The iliad though, only has an off switch and no suspend modes (neither STR or STD), so it must reload the OS into ram each time it's started.

If the Sony didn't suspend-to-ram between page turns, it's battery life would be comparable to the Iliad (maybe 4-5 times longer, but still).

Since the Cybook is basically the same hardware as the Sony, I suspect it'll suspend-to-ram between page turns, but I doubt it will suspend-to-disk. An proper off button would be nice though.

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Old 09-14-2007, 09:10 AM   #12
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I'm not sure, but that doesn't sound quite right HarryT.

It'd be more accurate to say the Sony is nearly always in a suspend mode. It only fires up the processor and brings the ram out of low power refresh when you ask it to turn a page, but then it goes back into suspend. That's why it'll last a month on a single change. However the Sony doesn't have an off switch (or so it would seem) or suspend-to-disk. The iliad though, only has an off switch and no suspend modes (neither STR or STD), so it must reload the OS into ram each time it's started.

If the Sony didn't suspend-to-ram between page turns, it's battery life would be comparable to the Iliad (maybe 4-5 times longer, but still).

Since the Cybook is basically the same hardware as the Sony, I suspect it'll suspend-to-ram between page turns, but I doubt it will suspend-to-disk. An proper off button would be nice though.
One of the hacks for the Sony does give it a proper off button. Hold in the joystick and it will turn off. My wife's reader has been "off" for about 2 weeks and it was turned on last night and the battery meter was still at the same 3 as it was when I turned it off.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:51 AM   #13
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I wish there was a way to turn off/suspend the buttons of the Sony without blanking the screen- I'd like to be able to open the cover of the Sony and see the last page I was reading. Unfortunately the Sony buttons get accidentally pressed way too easily with the cover closed which is why I always end up sliding the 'off' switch before I close it. I'm wondering if there will be a way to do this on the Cybook? Or if the Cybook is less prone to have the 'accidental button pushed with cover' problem?
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Derek,

Maybe you could hit upon this quickly during your writeup:

How glossy is the black finish? An overly glossy finish would turn me off slightly from a stylistic standpoint... I prefer more matted or flat finish. Is it so glossy that it would reflect lamplight or sunlight while trying to read?
The engineering samples we got are not reflective of the final finish. It's supposed to be more of a matte finish for the production units.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:16 PM   #15
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The engineering samples we got are not reflective of the final finish. It's supposed to be more of a matte finish for the production units.
I always appreciate a good pun, even if its unintentional.

Thanks for the info.
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