Is it possible to UN embed fonts?

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 01:11 PM

I have created an epub file using Calibre and cleaned up the file with Sigil. I'm now in the validation process using the Threepress validator and have come up with this message: "Your document was created with Adobe InDesign and uses embedded fonts. InDesign does not produce valid ePub output when fonts are embedded." Is there code I can delete at this point or do I need to start over?!

JSWolf · 06-03-2010, 01:14 PM

Can you post the CSS so we can see what the error message actually means?

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 01:25 PM

I don't know much about code which is why I'm using Sigil. My css file is 500 lines long. Most of it seems to be about paragraph styling, this is the first bit that seems to be about the whole doc.
@namespace h "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";
.calibre {
display: block;
font-size: 1em;
margin-bottom: 0;
margin-left: 5pt;
margin-right: 5pt;
margin-top: 0;
page-break-before: always;
text-align: justify
}

I see on the Threepress site I should have something like,
"@font-face {
font-family : MyFont;
font-weight : normal;
font-style: normal;
src : url(MyFont.otf);

but I don't.

I'm very lost.

}

AnemicOak · 06-03-2010, 01:31 PM

You say you created it in Calibre. Was Indesign a part of the process at some point? When exporting from InDesign uncheck 'Include Embeddable Fonts'.

As Paul explains in this post Adobe's method of embedding fonts won't pass validation...
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...46&postcount=4

Not sure how you'd undo it after generating the epub, but I'm sure it's possible. Need to poke around the file though to figure it out.

JSWolf · 06-03-2010, 01:31 PM

ZIP the CSS and attach it. Then we can see exactly what's there.

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 01:38 PM

I don't know how to get the css file out of sigil.

JSWolf · 06-03-2010, 01:40 PM

Rename the .epub to .zip and then you can just unzip the CSS file.

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 01:44 PM

tried that, already, but I get a .zip.cpgz file???

JSWolf · 06-03-2010, 01:45 PM

Have you got hidden file extensions turned on in Windows?

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 01:47 PM

working on a mac, os 10.6.3

lmronan · 06-03-2010, 05:42 PM

no love for the mac?

Valloric · 06-03-2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmronan

I'm now in the validation process using the Threepress validator and have come up with this message: "Your document was created with Adobe InDesign and uses embedded fonts. InDesign does not produce valid ePub output when fonts are embedded." Is there code I can delete at this point or do I need to start over?!

There's a "Fonts" folder in the Book Browser. Expand it and then delete the embedded fonts. Then find the @font-face CSS code that included those fonts and delete that too.

No need to any unzipping at all.

Catire · 06-04-2010, 01:52 AM

Quote:

There's a "Fonts" folder in the Book Browser. Expand it and then delete the embedded fonts. Then find the @font-face CSS code that included those fonts and delete that too.

tip: calibre embeds the @font-face css code in every xhtml file instead of the css file

Valloric · 06-04-2010, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catire

tip: calibre embeds the @font-face css code in every xhtml file instead of the css file

A global search&replace should take care of that.

paulpeer · 06-04-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmronan

tried that, already, but I get a .zip.cpgz file???

As Valloric said, you don't have to unzip it at all. But for your information, if you ever want to unzip an ePub on the Mac: open a terminal window and type: unzip title.epub

06-03-2010, 01:11 PM	#1
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	Is it possible to UN embed fonts? I have created an epub file using Calibre and cleaned up the file with Sigil. I'm now in the validation process using the Threepress validator and have come up with this message: "Your document was created with Adobe InDesign and uses embedded fonts. InDesign does not produce valid ePub output when fonts are embedded." Is there code I can delete at this point or do I need to start over?!

06-03-2010, 01:14 PM	#2
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,228 Karma: 13801376 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	Can you post the CSS so we can see what the error message actually means? __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

06-03-2010, 01:31 PM	#4
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 7,401 Karma: 18771935 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: AuraHD, Nook HD+, Kindle 2,3,T , Opus, TF101, Nexus7, iPT, iPhone5	You say you created it in Calibre. Was Indesign a part of the process at some point? When exporting from InDesign uncheck 'Include Embeddable Fonts'. As Paul explains in this post Adobe's method of embedding fonts won't pass validation... http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...46&postcount=4 Not sure how you'd undo it after generating the epub, but I'm sure it's possible. Need to poke around the file though to figure it out. __________________ ~Brian "The test of any good fiction is that you should care something for the characters; the good to succeed, the bad to fail. The trouble with most fiction is that you want them all to land in hell together, as quickly as possible." — Mark Twain Last edited by AnemicOak; 06-03-2010 at 01:34 PM.

06-03-2010, 01:31 PM	#5
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,228 Karma: 13801376 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	ZIP the CSS and attach it. Then we can see exactly what's there. __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

06-03-2010, 01:40 PM	#7
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,228 Karma: 13801376 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	Rename the .epub to .zip and then you can just unzip the CSS file. __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

06-03-2010, 01:25 PM	#3
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	I don't know much about code which is why I'm using Sigil. My css file is 500 lines long. Most of it seems to be about paragraph styling, this is the first bit that seems to be about the whole doc. @namespace h "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; .calibre { display: block; font-size: 1em; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 5pt; margin-right: 5pt; margin-top: 0; page-break-before: always; text-align: justify } I see on the Threepress site I should have something like, "@font-face { font-family : MyFont; font-weight : normal; font-style: normal; src : url(MyFont.otf); but I don't. I'm very lost. }

06-03-2010, 01:38 PM	#6
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	I don't know how to get the css file out of sigil.

06-03-2010, 01:44 PM	#8
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	tried that, already, but I get a .zip.cpgz file???

06-03-2010, 01:45 PM	#9
JSWolf Mobile Reader Geek Posts: 34,228 Karma: 13801376 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Sony Reader PRS-650, iPad	Have you got hidden file extensions turned on in Windows? __________________ Jon 2013 Reading List

06-03-2010, 01:47 PM	#10
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	working on a mac, os 10.6.3

06-03-2010, 05:42 PM	#11
lmronan Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Device: none	no love for the mac?

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