Amazon allows DTP publishers to opt out of DRM

anurag · 01-21-2010, 02:44 PM

Edit: It appears that we were all fooled by our optimism. No DRM was always the default; this change was more of an 'opt-in to DRM'. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01...m_drm_changes/

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Amazon quietly made a major change to its Digital Text Platform last week that went largely unnoticed: small publishers and individual authors who use the Digital Text Platform can now opt out of the Kindle's digital rights management (DRM) program. While this change only affects a relatively small number of publishers and authors for now, this move could hint at a larger change in Amazon's DRM policy. Right now, Amazon's DRM policy means that its customers can't transfer their books to a non-Kindle e-reader.

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From http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives...ors_opt_ou.php

Here is the relevant Amazon post:

http://forums.digitaltextplatform.co...earchPage=true

JSWolf · 01-21-2010, 02:46 PM

Will there be some sort of indication that there is no DRM before anyone buys?

Bremen Cole · 01-21-2010, 02:47 PM

It will take some time, but eventually they will all get it...........

CyGuy · 01-21-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Will there be some sort of indication that there is no DRM before anyone buys?

That is the question I want the answer to as well.

pdurrant · 01-21-2010, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Will there be some sort of indication that there is no DRM before anyone buys?

There's no explicit "No DRM on this Title", but there is an indication. If the detail on the listing says:

Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited

then the book has no DRM. See my title for an example:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0034KZ0LC/

AnemicOak · 01-21-2010, 03:28 PM

It would be nice if they were to add it explicitly to the product description I suppose. When I've bought a book there that's DRM free I've tagged it as so so that others would know.

rmm200 · 01-21-2010, 03:50 PM

This is really great news - we want the authors and publishers to be rewarded for their good efforts, but we also want to be able to use what we buy.

Strangely enough, the Overdrive model does not bother me. A book I rent for a 14 day period (at low/no cost), and then which self destructs, makes it clear I am just renting it for a single read. Books I purchase, however, I want to be able to correct formatting, punctuation, and grammar since the publishers seem to be doing such a bad job.

Robert

JSWolf · 01-21-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

There's no explicit "No DRM on this Title", but there is an indication. If the detail on the listing says:

Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited

then the book has no DRM. See my title for an example:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0034KZ0LC/

Thanks. That does help a lot.

MerLock · 01-21-2010, 03:53 PM

Currently, are there any other electronic reading devices that can support Kindle books? ... other than those like the iphone where you have to download the amazon software to read them.

AnemicOak · 01-21-2010, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

There's no explicit "No DRM on this Title", but there is an indication. If the detail on the listing says:

Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited

then the book has no DRM. See my title for an example:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0034KZ0LC/

Is that a hard and fast rule? If so it's great folks can tell, even if it's in a round about way.

AnemicOak · 01-21-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerLock

Currently, are there any other devices that can support Kindle books?

Just iPhone/iPod Touch and Windows PC's.

Alisa · 01-21-2010, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerLock

Currently, are there any other electronic reading devices that can support Kindle books? ... other than those like the iphone where you have to download the amazon software to read them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Just iPhone/iPod Touch and Windows PC's.

Unless, of course, they're .azw and you're willing to do something that may be illegal, like removing the DRM. Then they can be read on any device that supports Mobipocket or converted to other popular formats like ePub.

pedgarcia · 01-21-2010, 04:30 PM

Out of curiosity, are there any chance that they will charge you more when actually using DRM ?

pdurrant · 01-21-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Is that a hard and fast rule? If so it's great folks can tell, even if it's in a round about way.

I can't think of a way that a DRMed Mobipocket book could have unlimited simultaneous device usage. So yes, I think if it says that, the title must be DRM-free.

pdurrant · 01-21-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedgarcia

Out of curiosity, are there any chance that they will charge you more when actually using DRM ?

Probably not, since they own the DRM servers. Lulu charge an enormous amount for anyone using Adobe's DRM. ($1/sale, IIRC!)

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