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Old 11-07-2009, 11:00 AM   #1
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"Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

No, we do not. I sleep peacefully in bed because of my faith in God. The line you quote is nothing but a cheap way of papering over the horrors of war, of making yourself feel better about the atrocities that were committed throughout the history of the US: the slaughter of the indigenous population, the enslavement of millions of people of African descent, the conquest of half of Mexico, the usurpation of the remnants of the Spanish empire, and various wars fought to ensure US economic and political hegemony in Asia, Latin America, and elsewhere.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:53 AM   #2
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No, we do not. I sleep peacefully in bed because of my faith in God. The line you quote is nothing but a cheap way of papering over the horrors of war, of making yourself feel better about the atrocities that were committed throughout the history of the US: the slaughter of the indigenous population, the enslavement of millions of people of African descent, the conquest of half of Mexico, the usurpation of the remnants of the Spanish empire, and various wars fought to ensure US economic and political hegemony in Asia, Latin America, and elsewhere.
This is a vast oversimplification. I hope that when the Roman Empire is mentioned, you go on and on about the crimes of the Romans and forget entirely about the benefits Rome brought to the world. But I doubt it; I think that you are specializing in building a brief against one country.
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No, we do not. I sleep peacefully in bed because of my faith in God. The line you quote is nothing but a cheap way of papering over the horrors of war, of making yourself feel better about the atrocities that were committed throughout the history of the US: the slaughter of the indigenous population, the enslavement of millions of people of African descent, the conquest of half of Mexico, the usurpation of the remnants of the Spanish empire, and various wars fought to ensure US economic and political hegemony in Asia, Latin America, and elsewhere.
I feel so awful that you are forced to live in such a country.

Where you are free to spew your beliefs and pray to your "God", whoever that may be, without the fear of being beheaded, or jailed.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:39 PM   #4
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I sleep peacefully in bed because of my faith in God.


and how many people have died over the centuries because they chose not to belive in your god.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:49 PM   #5
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You _can_ sleep faithfully because you believe in god, irrespective of any
other fact. You might still get murdered, or murder, it is irrelevant to your peaceful sleep. You might even be more likely to be murdered, or might be more likely to murder someone else, because of your faith - and still sleep peacefully because of this faith. It just has nothing to do with absolutely nothing else. It just means "having peace of mind because I believe in some entity that I believe is stronger than anything else and that I believe is still interested in me".

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it really grips my s**t when people get on there soap box and start waving the bible around.
nevermind that the catholic church is corrupt,holds a fortune in money and land around the world and is a haven for pederasts who use their position to prey on children and are then protected by the church when exposed.

if you want to help the poor and needy give them the vaticans money there is enough of it.
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No, we do not. I sleep peacefully in bed because of my faith in God.
Don't see how you can do that -- God has been and is the cause of many deaths and many wars. The bible is full of war stories and killing done in the name of god and at the behest of god. Many of the deaths currently happening that you abhor are being done in the name of god. Doesn't seem like a peaceful sleep to me.
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Don't see how you can do that -- God has been and is the cause of many deaths and many wars. The bible is full of war stories and killing. Many of the deaths currently happening that you abhor are done in the name of god. Doesn't seem like a peaceful sleep to me.
Actually, if you _could_ see how he does that, you would probably be a faithful believer ;-) It's one of the greatest paradoxes I perceive in those who believe. They somehow manage to bring all these loose ends together...
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