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Old 10-22-2009, 12:48 AM   #46
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Well said, montsnmags, and without any finger-pointing. Especially Bravo for that.

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Old 10-22-2009, 06:35 AM   #47
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What an incredibly ridiculous discussion going on this thread. I can't decide whether to award some type of medal to those posters who are so...intelligent as to never need an occasional reference or to direct the posters who don't know of the nook's built-in dictionary to

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/features/

Oh well, I guess I'll do both. Now, where do I keep my metallurgy equipment?
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:08 AM   #48
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What an incredibly ridiculous discussion going on this thread. I can't decide whether to award some type of medal to those posters who are so...intelligent as to never need an occasional reference or to direct the posters who don't know of the nook's built-in dictionary to

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/features/

Oh well, I guess I'll do both. Now, where do I keep my metallurgy equipment?
You dont exactly 'need' equipment to practice metallurgy. Metallurgy is the science about the properties and functions of metals.
I didnt even look this up in the dictionary, my hubby is a metallurgist

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Old 10-22-2009, 08:13 AM   #49
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I too am looking for a new ereader WITH an inbuilt dictionary. It is going to be for my 'just' 13 year old daughter. She has just started to really read her way through the young adult books and is coming across vocabulary that she sometimes doesnt know, even when reading it in context she is sometimes still puzzled.
The Sony PRS-600 has a really nice dictionary built in. Just double tap the word and the definition pops up at the bottom of the screen and you can see the full page if you want from there. It is nice and fast too.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:40 AM   #50
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I would like to add my nod to the PRS600's dictionary. With the touch screen it is as easy as touching (twice) the word you want. With others without the touch screen, I imagine that navigating to the word to look up or typing the word is a bit more cumbersome.
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Old 10-22-2009, 12:56 PM   #51
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I have a 505. It works well. So no need to spend the money on a Nook. Besides, I'm waiting to find out about the QUE, The PRS-900, and the DR800SG (sp?).

Me too.
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Well, my apologies if the fact that I don't need a dictionary to hand to read a book insults anybody (which seemingly it does). Also, apologies for perhaps phrasing my opinion (which is all it is) too strongly.

By the way, I did have to look up "obnubilate" tompe.
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You dont exactly 'need' equipment to practice metallurgy. Metallurgy is the science about the properties and functions of metals.
I didnt even look this up in the dictionary, my hubby is a metallurgist

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My apologies to misrepresenting your husband's profession. I do have a question though: I was under the impression metallurgy was involved not just with the studying metals but also with producing and purifying them (which I thought needed some kind of equipment). I haven't used the word much, so I'm obviously not as familiar with it as you are.
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My apologies to misrepresenting your husband's profession. I do have a question though: I was under the impression metallurgy was involved not just with the studying metals but also with producing and purifying them (which I thought needed some kind of equipment). I haven't used the word much, so I'm obviously not as familiar with it as you are.
If you were reading this on an e-ink device with built in dictionary, you could have looked that up! I would have gotten it wrong if I would have tried to infer the meaning! :b
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I just wanted to say that I have a degree in English, work with writing in my job, and I use a dictionary quite often.

Yes, I can infer a word's meaning by context clues, but why just guess? You'll be surprised how many people think they are using a word correctly, but are misinformed. I see that a LOT in business writing.

I think it's silly for people to look down upon those that need a dictionary, no matter the book they are reading.

Even the book "Twilight" was well-known for having quite a lot of SAT words in it.
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Well, proper nouns like the names of birds and fishes won't be in a dictionary anyway (by the way, I'm interested in the fact that you only have problems with the names of birds and fishes and not, say, reptiles or mammals?).

Not sure why you'd find adjectives any more difficult than any other aspect of language.
Lots of proper nouns aren't in dictionaries, true. Came across a few unfamiliar ones while reading some pretty cool scholarly works not too long ago, and was extremely excited to have Wikipedia available to me on my kindle...

As for the dictionary itself, I have always been one to infer the meaning of words from the context. Usually have done it pretty well in the past, too. However, since getting my kindle, I've found that I am learning much more from actually looking up the word in the on-board dictionary than I did from just inferring the meaning. Sometimes, I'm able to get a better idea of where the world comes from. Other times, it's a secondary meaning (not the one used in the sentence that I'm looking at) that catches my interest. And at times, it's just a better understanding of what situations it's likely to be used in.
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Rather arrogant, that remark.

I wasn't impressed by the Kindles built in dictionary until I started reading more. Thought I knew just about every word or could infer their meanings by use in a sentence.

Read many pd books lately? From Doyle to Christie to Wells, there are many words that haven't been used for decades. Even before my time.

Even in contemporary reading, most of us occasionally run across words we aren't familiar with.

Instead of just ignoring them, we like to know their meanings.
I didn't think I would use the dictionary, either. But it is amazing how many words I skimmed over, and now I know the exact meaning, out of context.

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My apologies to misrepresenting your husband's profession. I do have a question though: I was under the impression metallurgy was involved not just with the studying metals but also with producing and purifying them (which I thought needed some kind of equipment). I haven't used the word much, so I'm obviously not as familiar with it as you are.
LOL....I was only joking with you, hence the smiley face, and yes, you do produce and purify metals in Metallurgy, but the metallurgy bit is the science, to put the science into practice you need the processing equipment.
My hubby can work with or without the equipment, all he needs is his brain, but then again, his brain is his equipment
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I just wanted to say that I have a degree in English, work with writing in my job, and I use a dictionary quite often.

Yes, I can infer a word's meaning by context clues, but why just guess? You'll be surprised how many people think they are using a word correctly, but are misinformed. I see that a LOT in business writing.

I think it's silly for people to look down upon those that need a dictionary, no matter the book they are reading.

Even the book "Twilight" was well-known for having quite a lot of SAT words in it.
The Twilight saga's were the books my 13 year old was reading when she found that she needed the dictionary....lol.
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Well, my apologies if the fact that I don't need a dictionary to hand to read a book insults anybody (which seemingly it does). Also, apologies for perhaps phrasing my opinion (which is all it is) too strongly.

By the way, I did have to look up "obnubilate" tompe.
Your opinion is not the issue, you should be apologizing for insisting that a forum member "go back to school" for wanting to look words up in a dictionary. The insult is what people found insulting, not your humongous vocabulary.
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