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Old 09-20-2009, 09:20 AM   #31
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Bien sur, l'iphone est très pratique mais ne remplace pas une liseuse, c'est certain. J'avoue que comme mon iphone est "jailbroken", je ne commande que les formats mobi chez Amazon, jamais les topaz (pas dedrm-isables), j'extraie les .prc du kindle (pour l'iphone le format est .prc), fais sauter le drm et les passe par calibre pour les mettre ensuite sur mon 505. On voit si un ebook est en format azw (mobi pour Amazon) ou Tpz (Topaz) en ne commandant d'abord que le sample gratuit et en l'ouvrant avec un hexediteur. Mais je suppose que vous savez déjà tout ça.

Mais comme tu l'expliques tres bien dans ton thread de la partie News Alfy, c'est vraiment du bidouillage et il faut avoir le temps, l'envie et les sources d'info nécessaires.

En court: les restrictions géographiques, pour moi c'est de la censure pure et simple.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:29 PM   #32
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Ah la vache!!!

Bon, va falloir que t'arrête avec tes "mais vous le savez déjà", parce que moi, je savais pas! Et j'avais pas du tout réalisé que la combine permettrait de récupérer des livres chez Amazon pour ma liseuse, innocent que je suis...

Du coup, si ça t'embête pas, quelques petites questions:

- Il y en a beaucoup, des bouquins en topaze? Ca représente quelle proportion?
- T'aurais un lien pour savoir comment connaître le format de fichier à partir d'un éditeur hexadécimal?
- Et enfin, comment récupères-tu le fichier de ton iPhone vers ton ordi? (en sachant que mon iPod Touch n'est pas jailbreaké, et que je suis pas sûr d'avoir envi de le faire...)

Ahlala, moi qui croyait tout savoir sur les ebooks...

Merci pour tes conseils!
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:14 AM   #33
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Alors moi comme hexediteur j'utilise HEXtreme 2.0 gratuit sur la toile.

Les bouquins en topaze, il doit y en avoir grand max 10%, toute la série des donna leon par exemple, mais ce sont presque toujours des bouquins dispo en ebook seulement chez amazon. Pour etre sur, tu télécharges d'abord le sample gratuit, tu l'extraies et tu l'ouvres avec Hextreme et tu regardes en haut à droite. Si tu vois TPZ, tu ne l'achètes pas. Si tu vois MOBI, c'est bon.

Je n'ai pas d'ipod Touch, donc je ne sais pas comment le jailbreaké (on commence à parler une langue pas possible, non ?), mais oui il faut sinon tu ne peux pas accéder à sa mémoire. J'utilise iphonebrowser pour mon iphone, et mon application Kindle se trouve dans le fichier "User" sous "application". Il faut ouvrir tous les sous-fichier avant de trouver le kindle parce que les app ne portent pas leur nom mais des numéros de séries (tout au moins dans l'iphone). fouille ensuite un peu dans kindle, tu touveras tes livres avec à chaque fois 2 files, n'extraie que celles se terminant par .prc, ce sont tes livres. Les samples sont sous la forme BXXXXXESP. prc je crois, les livres complet sous BXXXXXXBOK.prc.

Sinon pour le dedrmage (en voilà encore un de joli mot), il faut trouver ton numéro MOBI PID associé à ton ipod touch (c'est ta clé DRM). Alors tu prends le numéro de série, obtenu en cliquant dans itunes sur le premier numéro de ton ipod touch, il apparait alors un second numéro bcp plus long que tu notes.
Tu installes Python26 sur ton ordi (à googler, facile à trouver), tu te procures sur la toile kindlepid.py et mobidedrm.py (je n'ai pas le droit de te dire ou, mais google-les, pas hyper facile mais faisable, c'est comme ça que je les ai eu). Tu passes ton numéro de série par kindlepid.py qui est un script python, tu obtiens alors ton MOBI PID, puis ton bouquin par mobidedrm.py avec ton MOBI PID, et voilà.

Enfin bon, et voilà c'est vite dit. Au début j'ai pas mal galéré avec les scripts python, mais il y a pas mal de thread dessus ici (cherche mobidedrm) qui explique assez bien ce qu'il faut faire. Et puis je suis presque de la génération DOS, je m'en souviens un peu,

Le premier pas, c'est le jailbreak. Pas difficile, mais il faut etre calme et suivre correctement et à la lettre les instructions.

Si tu as besoin de + d'aide, ou de + de détails, PM

PS: What are snarks ???
PS2: effectivement, tu es tres innocent

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Old 09-21-2009, 10:12 AM   #34
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waouh, aceflor, maximum respect, tu m'épates là avec tes mad skillz (puisqu'on est déjà parti dans un vocabulaire "pas possible" ) ! si un jour j'ai un iphone ou un ipod touch, je cours te faire un pm !

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pff, que tu crois ! il arrive à s'en donner parfois l'air (et encore...) mais il cache bien son jeu ! ...ha, tu voulais dire pour les drm ? d'accord alors là peut-être.
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waouh, aceflor, maximum respect, tu m'épates là avec tes mad skillz (puisqu'on est déjà parti dans un vocabulaire "pas possible" ) ! si un jour j'ai un iphone ou un ipod touch, je cours te faire un pm !



pff, que tu crois ! il arrive à s'en donner parfois l'air (et encore...) mais il cache bien son jeu ! ...ha, tu voulais dire pour les drm ? d'accord alors là peut-être.
Hein, t'as vu ça.... moi j'le dis toujours, faut s'méfier des mères de familles.... en fait, j'ai le temps donc je surfe et je trouve plein d'infos intéressantes que je teste, et si ça marche j'en fait profiter les potes. Quidam le charmant résume cela de la manière suivante "t'as vraiment que ça à faire ?", si si, c'est très joli aussi dit en allemand, ça fait vachement plaisir ....Mais c'est parce qu'il est nul de chez nul avec un ordi, il est jaloux moi j'dis.

Quant à Alfy: ben si, il est innocent. Bittorrent mais pas dedrm de Kindle ? ptit joueur va

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ah et puis Zelda, vi, bien sur, si tu prends un iphone ou un itouch, tu me PM,
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hou le vilain !!! il t'apprécie pas assez, c'est clair !! le jour où il voudrait savoir comment récupérer son ebook de sur son iphone, il sera bien content que tu pourrais l'aider, et puis là tu lui dis "non mais tu comprends, j'ai pas que ça à faire, alors tu te dém*rdes !"

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hou le vilain !!! il t'apprécie pas assez, c'est clair !! le jour où il voudrait savoir comment récupérer son ebook de sur son iphone, il sera bien content que tu pourrais l'aider, et puis là tu lui dis "non mais tu comprends, j'ai pas que ça à faire, alors tu te dém*rdes !"


ptit joueur c'est pas la même chose qu'innocent !
effectivement, après avoir lu l'autre thread, il n'est pas que petit joueur... quoique, jeux de mains...
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hou le vilain !!! il t'apprécie pas assez, c'est clair !! le jour où il voudrait savoir comment récupérer son ebook de sur son iphone, il sera bien content que tu pourrais l'aider, et puis là tu lui dis "non mais tu comprends, j'ai pas que ça à faire, alors tu te dém*rdes !"


ptit joueur c'est pas la même chose qu'innocent !
Ah mais ne me porte pas la poisse, malheureuse. Un iPhone pour quidam, mais ce serait de l'inconscience pure. Il a un nokia deuxième génération qui doit faire la taille de sa chaussure. J'ai songé à lui offrir un portable 3e age, mais j'ai peur qu'il ne sache pas s'en servir
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oui, c'est vrai que ça marche plus sous DOS de nos jours !!
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En fait, je crois qu'il a appris sous COBOL . Tu comprends donc pourquoi je reste, je suis couchée (entre autres ) sur son testament .

PS: quidam ne lit pas le français, ouf!
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non, je crois qu'il vaut mieux pas que je mette mon doigt dans cet engrenage là !!!!
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Et moi donc, il comprendrait peut etre les allusions et arreterait de faire des c... avec son ordi

Pauvre Alfy, va falloir qu'il remonte vachement en arrière pour retrouver le mode d'emploi.
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