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Old 06-03-2009, 12:54 PM   #16
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I want to say well done. I have a few issues that can be looked it if you don't mind.

I just took a look at the ePub version of Robin Hood. I have a few comments about it...

There is a line at the end of every chapter that can go away. Paragraph spacing needs to go away except where it indicates section changes. Paragraph spaces don't give a good reading experience. In fact, they make me want to find a pBook copy that doesn't have them. Also, the quote/apostrophes could do with some modernizing (aka smart quotes). And lastly, the images that are on their own (no text next to them)can do wiht being centered to look better.

This is a feature request... font embedding for ePub or generating code for fonts already loaded on our reader.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:31 PM   #17
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I want to say well done. I have a few issues that can be looked it if you don't mind.
Thanks, Jon, I don't mind at all, and actually, I kinda of expected you would chime in... good expected...

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I just took a look at the ePub version of Robin Hood. I have a few comments about it...

There is a line at the end of every chapter that can go away. Paragraph spacing needs to go away except where it indicates section changes. Paragraph spaces don't give a good reading experience. In fact, they make me want to find a pBook copy that doesn't have them.
While it's not my preference, the GUI options screen (second screen reachable when the 'More Options...' box is checked on the first screen) has an option to have 'no para sep.' or, in english, no blank line paragraph separation between paragraphs. This will also most definitately require some 'text-indent' (default is 2em). Here is the top part of the 'no para sep.' produced .htm which shows the CSS used by the PG DP when they created that 'Robin Hood' .htm version and as modified by GuteBook (in bold), namely:
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
  <head>
	<meta name="EText-No." content="28700">
	<meta name="title"     content="Robin Hood">
	<meta name="author"    content="Paul Creswick">
	<meta name="publisher" content="Project Gutenberg">
	<meta name="generator" content="GuteBook by Nick Rapallo (nrapallo)">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1" />
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css" />
    <title>
      Robin Hood, by Paul Creswick.
    </title>
    <style type="text/css">


body { margin-left: 2%; margin-right: 2%; text-align: justify; text-indent: 2em; }

    h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
    text-align: center; /* all headings centered */
    clear: both;
}

p {
    margin-top: .75em;
    text-align: justify;
    margin-bottom: .75em;
}

hr {
    width: 33%;
    margin-top: 2em;
    margin-bottom: 2em;
    margin-left: auto;
    margin-right: auto;
    clear: both;
}

div.centered {text-align: center;} /* work around for IE centering with CSS problem part 1 */
    div.centered table {margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: left;} /* work around for IE centering with CSS problem part 2 */


.pagenum { /* uncomment the next line for invisible page numbers */
    /*  visibility: hidden;  */
    position: absolute;
    left: 92%;
    font-size: smaller;
    text-align: right;
} /* page numbers */

.blockquot {
    margin-left: 5%;
    margin-right: 10%;
}



.center   {text-align: center;}

.smcap    {font-variant: small-caps;}


.caption  {font-weight: bold;}

/* Images */
.figcenter   {
    margin: auto;
    text-align: center;
     margin-top: 3em;
}


/* Footnotes */
.footnotes        {border: dashed 1px;}

.footnote         {margin-left: 10%; margin-right: 10%; font-size: 0.9em;}

.footnote .label  {position: absolute; right: 84%; text-align: right;}

.fnanchor {
    vertical-align: super;
    font-size: .8em;
    text-decoration:
    none;
}


.author {text-align: right; margin-right: 5%;}


      h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {text-align: center }
    h2 { page-break-before: always; }
      p {text-indent: 2em; margin-top: 0em; margin-bottom: 0em;  padding-top: 0em; padding-bottom: 0em}
    br {margin-top: 0em; margin-bottom: 0em;  padding-top: 0em; padding-bottom: 0em}  </style>
  </head>
<body style="margin-left: 2%; margin-right: 2%; text-align: justify; text-indent: 2em; ">
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Also, the quote/apostrophes could do with some modernizing (aka smart quotes).
For now, I don't override what the PG HTML supports for quotes; as, AFAIK, there's no easy fool-proof way to do this in Perl. However, I can look at this if you show me what can be done to the sample 'Robin Hood' HTML so as to incorporate smart quotes. I think it would make a valuable addition to GuteBook!

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And lastly, the images that are on their own (no text next to them)can do wiht being centered to look better.
Yes, I agree! I had already looked at overriding the <img> tag so as to allow it to be (forceably) centered, plus re-saving of images to make them more compatible and better sized for smaller screen ebook readers. These fixes will then be able to be overridden/omitted with the GUI option box 'no image fix' which has not yet been implemented.

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This is a feature request... font embedding for ePub or generating code for fonts already loaded on our reader.
Can this be done using calibre's any2epub? That's what I use to transform the modified .htm into .epub.

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Old 06-03-2009, 03:45 PM   #18
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Just a quick comment. I thought a part of the reason that an extra blank line is added at the end of a paragraph was for the Text-to-Speech function? Otherwise TTS speaks in a "run-on paragraph" manner through the entire text body.
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:18 PM   #19
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Just a quick comment. I thought a part of the reason that an extra blank line is added at the end of a paragraph was for the Text-to-Speech function? Otherwise TTS speaks in a "run-on paragraph" manner through the entire text body.
I guess in that case, paragraph indentation, would be a better "signal".
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And lastly, the images that are on their own (no text next to them) can do with being centered to look better.
Found a fix for this within that .htm. It seems that the "width" element within the <div class="figcenter"> tag caused images not to be centered in .epub's. Go figure!

Now GuteBook allows you to fix this by choosing the '--imgsrc' switch or GUI option 'Keep <img> src only' (a poor descriptive name now ).

Updated GuteBook and Installer to version 0.3 in post #1 above.

REVISIONS:
v0.3 - June 4, 2009
- add "start" anchor when the PG preamble is retained
- remove any stray <br>'s from metadata.
- fix GUI options loading; now properly remembers the 'search' and 'replace' strings. The user must ensure that any " or / are escaped by \ within those strings.
- simple PG title page added when --cover (GUI: 'Extract cover') specified (would be better to take a snapshot of this as a "cover" image)
- option '--imgsrc' (GUI: 'Keep <img> src only') now removes "width" elements from within preceding <div class=figcenter> which caused images not to be centered in .epub's

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Thanks, =X=, Creator of BookCreator!

It means a lot coming from a fellow developer who creates many ebook formats from a single source file (even if it is MS Word ). There's a little bit of your thinking within GuteBook: fire off the results to calibre and let it do all the hard work!

Maybe I should re-label GuteBook, as a calibre front-end?

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Hi nrapallo,

Great little tool and does a lot of the work for getting my PG books set up for use as epubs.

One question though (probably should have tried this myself but am rather busy with work), I've got numerous html books as this format works great on FBReader, but am trying to convert them to epub for use as a more transportable file. What's it like converting non-PG html files?
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Hi nrapallo,

Great little tool and does a lot of the work for getting my PG books set up for use as epubs.

One question though (probably should have tried this myself but am rather busy with work), I've got numerous html books as this format works great on FBReader, but am trying to convert them to epub for use as a more transportable file. What's it like converting non-PG html files?
GuteBook is specifically geared towards converting Project Gutenberg HTML's. It don't think it would add any value to your conversion process. I am planning to add the ability to retrieve and convert Project Gutenberg Australia books in the future. It may take the form of a spin-off from GuteBook, perhaps called AuGuteBook!

Why not try calibre or even consider importing the HTML into BookCreator and produce your ebook formats from there. Both these programs are available elsewhere on MobileRead.com.
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GuteBook is specifically geared towards converting Project Gutenberg HTML's. It don't think it would add any value to your conversion process. I am planning to add the ability to retrieve and convert Project Gutenberg Australia books in the future. It may take the form of a spin-off from GuteBook, perhaps called AuGuteBook!

Why not try calibre or even consider importing the HTML into BookCreator and produce your ebook formats from there. Both these programs are available elsewhere on MobileRead.com.
I've tried both of those but neither will work correctly, suspect I've got a problem in my windows but don't have the capacity to back up my hard drive so stuck with a damaged OS.

Looks like back to converting them by hand then.
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I've tried both of those but neither will work correctly, suspect I've got a problem in my windows but don't have the capacity to back up my hard drive so stuck with a damaged OS.

Looks like back to converting them by hand then.
This is quite strange, because Gutebook mostly relates on Calibre. So if that works, at least the Calibre command tools should work without a problem!
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I know, that's why I'm blaming my PC.

I've been meaning to wipe it and reinstall windows, just have not had the time or the backup capacity to do it yet.
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Wouldn't it be easier for user to Sony Reader users to download the ePub version from Project Gutenberg (and if a PRS-500 user convert it to LRF format)?
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Wouldn't it be easier for user to Sony Reader users to download the ePub version from Project Gutenberg (and if a PRS-500 user convert it to LRF format)?
I guess so, if all you want is the "raw" PG title.

A PG .epub has the same issues as it's underlying .htm or .txt source file, namely, the inclusion of the PG preamble, PG legalese, visible page numbers as well as it's lack of pagebreaks, etc...

However, GuteBook adds value, by preprocessing that PG Title and applying many fixes/filters to produce a more appealling (IMHO) ebook; almost akin to a MobileRead.com ebook upload.

The differences between a GuteBook .epub and PG .epub may be minor, but the abillity to modify the source file to the user's own preferences is what makes GuteBook shine!

Maybe as the PG .epub format "matures", I may even use it as the source file that GuteBook tweaks...

p.s. Truth be told, it was your Nintendo book collection challenge thread that got me thinking about accessing the PG website directly and retrieving their ebooks through a script. See the below attachments for my first run-through after reading FangornUK's Yet Another Gutenberg Book/HTML converter.

So (belated) thanks for your contribution too...
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version 0.4

GuteBook now directly retrieves and converts PG or PG Australia HTML files specified by it's EText-No. or URL.

PG Australia ebooks require the URL link to the HTML to also be specified in place of the Input File since there is no direct relationship between the PG Australia EText-No. and its URL. For example, use these two switch for for the Perl script
Code:
--PGnum 1547A AND http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks07/0700941h.html
or see the screenshot below for how to do the same thing using the GUI main screen.

Updated GuteBook and Installer to version 0.4 in post #1 above.

REVISIONS:
v0.4 - June 10, 2009
- added ability to directly download PG Australia ebooks using their
EText-No. AND URL link to the .html placed as the Input file.
For example,
use: --PGnum 1547A AND http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks07/0700941h.html
Note that downloading .zip is fine, but .txt is not yet fully functional
- improved Custom Perl Search and Replace functionalilty. Still need to
use "\ for any " however due to dos limitation can't use ^ yet!
- minor code/html fixes.
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