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It is amazing how many different names there are for domestic making hot water (and storage). US Water Heater (ours tend to be Glass lined steel with about 7-12Y life. Tho as Jon mentioned, there are demand type, and those that used the house heating boiler with a heat exchange insert) Britain (only?) Cylinder My Russian neighbor called it a "boiler" (Note: you really do not want it any way near Boiling. About 250 degrees F at 40 PSI ) Others? |
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It's called a boiler here too.
I live in an apartment and so have pre-heated water coming directly from pipes, no water tank whatsoever. |
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Copper so the flowing water doesn't corrode it. It might last 100 years. Ours is over 40 years old. Though a dual "immersion" heater (sink/bath) fitted in the tank for when main heating (stove, oil, gas etc) is of is more common. The Willis is the best electrical hot water heater, inexpensive and easy to retrofit to any "hot tank" or boiler. https://www.elemex.ie/external-immersion-heater/ It was invented in Northern Ireland. There are people that have "boiler tanks" too. Less common in the past. Last edited by Quoth; 04-17-2024 at 06:08 PM. |
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The actual boiler (fireplace, stove, oil, gas etc) doesn't use fresh water. Some are pressurised. It uses a coil in the "hot tank" to heat the tap water without mixing.
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Where I am (Nottinghamshire England) there are four hot water types that I know of:
The hot water tanks are heated by one or both:
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We looked at a tankless water heater when we last replaced our hot water heater but our basement needs some renovation before we have the space to install one so went with the old fashioned storage tank. |
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Fun heater discussion. Kind of amazing the number of terms available to describe a simple function of heating water...
In the US (at least the east coast). If you burn a fuel (gas, oil, propane, wood, coal... whatever) you have a furnace or a boiler. If the output is heated air, it is a furnace, if the output is heated water or steam it is a boiler. A hot water tank, can be heat pump powered, electric, gas, wood, coal.... A hot water storage tank, has a heat exchanger which is normally connected to a closed loop system which is attached to a boiler. Tankless hot water, often actually has a small tank, usually just a couple gallons. I am sure there are more variations. Those are the ones I know off hand. Tim |
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At close to $1000 (12Y, Calif, "low NOX") without installation, we run them till they drip . (most fails just start out dripping. Our building codes require drip pans with a drain connection AND be 18" above the floor if in a Garage) Maintenance, can prolong the life. Almost anyone can attach a garden hose and use a screwdriver (child proof rules removed the knobs years ago) and drain sediment. Changing the Anode rod is a bit (can be a lot of effort for so simple of an item) heavy duty (unscrew a pipe plug, remove the assembly, screw in the new one). Frequency of these tasks depends on your water makeup |
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Then why are these that cost 3x the tank type only warranted 3Y? BTW a 5KW+ Electric for a household in PG&E country ($0.60 KWh) is a no go. |
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