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Old 02-27-2009, 04:03 AM   #16
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eScape uses the Structure-Styling approach and is designed to demonstrate how the XHTML needs to be consistent for maximum value. From that perspective it is bossy. Then all changes can be made on the CSS. This is a radically different approach to most of the talk we see on the forum where there is a constant struggle with the smallest HTML issues for various reasons, and ePub packaging is onerous. eScape eliminates that struggle in return for a little discipline applying styles, then you can get as creative as you like with styles. For more information on this approach there is an informative white paper on XHTML for publishing here.
Bossy is not neessarily bad in my book. Sometimes you need someone to take your hand and guide you. I appreciate the work you invested in this software and like the results. Sorry if I sounded arrogant or negative, I didn't mean to be.
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Old 02-27-2009, 05:28 AM   #17
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Good effort for creating text-only books. I played around with it a bit and was quite underwhelmed, honestly. Way too simplistic and not enough options (and quite bossy).
Saw your reply to Munish, but I would be interested in what you meant by bossy. By that do you mean the strict styles? Or is it something else.

Not enough options? Can you give us a list of what you think is missing (other than the ones that have been stated such as images, notes, and footnotes). Remembering the target is text books, not illustrated books.

What is simplistic, as opposed to simple (Which it is definitely trying to be)? There is some pretty sophisticated XHTML being generated under the skin.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:06 AM   #18
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I was elated at first. Then I saw this:



I don't need commercial creation support, but your #2 requirement is--to me--unacceptable. I'm don't want advertisements in books I create for myself.

Other than that, the more epub converters we have, the better.

Book Designer has it as well.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:44 PM   #19
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Book Designer has it as well.
Please read the whole thread before posting. I responded to this already.

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Yes it does, and it's immensely irritating. But BD is a free program, and I can (just barely) live with an ad for a free program...
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #20
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Yes it does, and it's immensely irritating. But BD is a free program, and I can (just barely) live with an ad for a free program...
Is not eScape free program?
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Is not eScape free program?
No, it's free for non-commercial uses. That's not free.

Again, read the thread.

EDIT: Oh one more thing... this whole debate about the embedded advertisement is now completely moot since they removed it in the latest version.

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Old 02-28-2009, 06:48 PM   #22
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The license text on the website has been changed. We have removed the Acknowledgment page (AKA advertisement) condition as requested. The page is no longer displayed.
Even if the acknowledgments page didn't bother me i want to thank you for removing it.

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Not enough options? Can you give us a list of what you think is missing (other than the ones that have been stated such as images, notes, and footnotes). Remembering the target is text books, not illustrated books.
You are saying that the target is text books not illustrated books. Does that mean that you don't want add image support in the future? Illustration seems to be very important (at least for me) - especially because ePub is a so called "rich format" with a lot of possibilities.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:02 PM   #23
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Any chance to make eScape work with Office 2003? I don't have Open Office nore do I plan on installing it. Thanks.

Does eScape allow font embedding?

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Old 02-28-2009, 10:06 PM   #24
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Does eScape allow font embedding?
Short answer, no. The long answer is here, since the discussion spilled over into the sticky "ePub creation tools" thread.
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:36 AM   #25
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We will evaluate including images. There are complications with how OO handles images in XHTML, exports as Base64 and sizes them proportionally to a 96dpi version of the OO page. The result is the image is probably too small. We didn't want to hold the app back while wrestling with this problem.

So one solution is a bit ugly. We can use an image paragraph style, which then has the filename in it, and you have to have the image file in the input location. We then have to handle title/alt text for ePub validity as well.

Maybe we will do both. But the answer to the $100 question is, not sure when we will get around to it.
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eScapt to Microsoft Word compatibility? I doubt it can be done easily using the same techniques since MS don't support XHTML anywhere in any product (including their browsers). Their exported HTML is a mess as others have testified, and even their new XML format is a screwball mess. However the fact is, in the same way you don't want to install OO, we don't want to blow money on MS Office. So I guess the answer is no, not from us.
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Any chance to make eScape work with Office 2003? I don't have Open Office nore do I plan on installing it.
Well, I can't really help with the latter, but the former's just a matter of downloading it from http://www.openoffice.org/. :-)
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Well, I can't really help with the latter, but the former's just a matter of downloading it from http://www.openoffice.org/. :-)
Can you have both, 2003 Office and Open Office on the same computer?
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Can you have both, 2003 Office and Open Office on the same computer?
I don't see why not. But if not, you can always use this: http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable
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I have never used Open Office.

I scanned the page of portable version but cannot understand the difference between standard version and portable. Most likely I missed something obvious, silly me.
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