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 01-20-2009, 06:34 PM #46 mtravellerh book creator     Posts: 9,636 Karma: 1723914 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Luxembourg Device: PB360° Si taquisses philosophus mansisses
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 Originally Posted by ProDigit Or, it's not going to be easily cracked by any home computer; BUT the gamingcomputer running 2 graphics cards in SLI,with Cuda installed.
The sheer amount of ignorance displayed in your post is staggering, to say the least. To bruteforce 128-bit AES encryption, you need to check 2^128 (340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,4 56) different keys. If you had a computer that could check a BILLION BILLION ( 10^18 = 1000 000 000 000 000 000) keys a second -- which is many many many orders of magnitude beyond what anyone can do, no matter how many computers or CUDA graphics cards they assemble -- it would still take 10^13 years to check all of them. This is one THOUSAND times longer than the age of the universe.

Even this is minute and laughably small if we talk about 256-bit AES.

Please don't speak about things you clearly have absolutely no idea about.

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 Originally Posted by Valloric it would still take 10^13 years to check all of them.
Yes, all of them. But if you are lucky, you may find the right key in the first minute, which makes it very fast

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 Originally Posted by mtravellerh Si taquisses philosophus mansisses
Words to live by, indeed .

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 Originally Posted by mtravellerh Si taquisses philosophus mansisses
I couldn't agree more. Also, it's tacuisses.

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 Originally Posted by Jellby Yes, all of them. But if you are lucky, you may find the right key in the first minute, which makes it very fast
Now that's not funny!

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 Originally Posted by Valloric I couldn't agree more. Also, it's tacuisses.
In classical Latin, yes (from "taceo", of course), but medieval Latin often replaced c's with q's, and this is a medieval Latin saying.

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 Originally Posted by HarryT In classical Latin, yes (from "taceo", of course), but medieval Latin often replaced c's with q's, and this is a medieval Latin saying.
Huh... I missed that one.

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 Originally Posted by Valloric Huh... I missed that one.
I didn't cf my last post in this thread

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I saw that one coming. I deserve it, too.

 01-23-2009, 04:45 PM #55 Daithi Publishers are evil!     Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles I'll be honest, I'm certainly not opposed to epub, but I don't see it as the ultimate solution to producing ebooks either. Actually, I think the problem has more to do with hardware than it does with software. The screens used to display ebooks are just too small. If for example you are designing a book of poetry then you will have lines wrap because the screen is too small, and there isn't much you can do about it -- no matter what software you use. The current e-readers work fine for novels and similar types of books, but virtually any book that requires special formatting is going to be hampered by screen size limitations far more than they are by software limitations. Once we have screens capable of displaying letter or A4 sized pages then I still doubt I will be demanding epub support, but instead will want PDF support. That's my 2 cents anyway.
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 Originally Posted by Daithi I'll be honest, I'm certainly not opposed to epub, but I don't see it as the ultimate solution to producing ebooks either. Actually, I think the problem has more to do with hardware than it does with software. The screens used to display ebooks are just too small. If for example you are designing a book of poetry then you will have lines wrap because the screen is too small, and there isn't much you can do about it -- no matter what software you use. The current e-readers work fine for novels and similar types of books, but virtually any book that requires special formatting is going to be hampered by screen size limitations far more than they are by software limitations. Once we have screens capable of displaying letter or A4 sized pages then I still doubt I will be demanding epub support, but instead will want PDF support. That's my 2 cents anyway.
i made this same reply in the first thread you posted this in, but i'll make it here too for the sake of consistency :
i'm not sure what any of this has to do with epub.

 01-23-2009, 06:48 PM #57 Daithi Publishers are evil!     Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles I'm simply making the point that epub (or any software solution) does not resolve the issue of making formatted books look nice on an e-reader. The real problem is that the screens are too small, and when the screens are bigger then PDF will probably be answer and not epub. I really enjoy your posts Zelda, but I fail to see why you think my response is off topic. Maybe your emotionally invested in epub? This I can understand.
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 Originally Posted by Daithi I'm simply making the point that epub (or any software solution) does not resolve the issue of making formatted books look nice on an e-reader. The real problem is that the screens are too small, and when the screens are bigger then PDF will probably be answer and not epub. I really enjoy your posts Zelda, but I fail to see why you think my response is off topic. Maybe your emotionally invested in epub? This I can understand.
well, i think your post is a bit off topic because you are talking about screens being too small ; but as you recognise yourself, that has nothing to do with any ebook format, including epub.

as for making formatted books look nice, as long as we are not talking about screen size, the css support in epub should allow you to make very nice looking texts, on the contrary ; however, you are right, epub will not help you with poetry formatting if lines are too long for the screen. but again, that's not really anything to do with epub.

 05-04-2009, 06:45 PM #59 tomsem Wizard   Posts: 3,137 Karma: 7639439 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: Fire Phone, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air 2, Fire HD6 I have noticed that ePub supports the use of embedded fonts, but what other, specific technical advantages does ePub confer over mobi/AZW? Is there broader/deeper support for HTML/CSS? Are all ePub readers created equal, i.e. are some features 'optional' to implement? Thanks
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 Originally Posted by tomsem I have noticed that ePub supports the use of embedded fonts, but what other, specific technical advantages does ePub confer over mobi/AZW? Is there broader/deeper support for HTML/CSS? Are all ePub readers created equal, i.e. are some features 'optional' to implement? Thanks
ePub fully supports CSS 2.1 and I think almost all of XHTML. Mobi/AZW's CSS support is, what's the polite word, terrible. No support for float, almost all the box model fails, etc.

ePub also supports SVG. So the rendering capacity is much, much better. Basically it's quite difficult to do anything more design-intensive than a novel in Mobi. ePub gives you the chance to do almost anything (of course, you need a reading system to support it).

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