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Old 06-20-2014, 12:02 AM   #1
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June 2014 Discussion: Hyperion by Dan Simmons (spoilers)

The time has come to discuss the June 2014 MobileRead Book Club selection, Hyperion by Dan Simmons. What did you think?
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:05 AM   #2
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I thought the ending had a distinct taste of The Lady or the Tiger. I enjoyed the journey, but it was a long way to travel for an inconclusive finale.
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Old 06-20-2014, 12:23 AM   #3
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I really enjoyed a couple of the stories and was almost in tears about Rachel, but as a review I read after I finished said: this felt like a prequel rather than a complete story. I really would have liked some resolution. I would be interested in knowing how these people got chosen. It isn't like they were particularly public about what had happened to each of them in regards to Hyperion. I suppose that is part of book 2.

Overall this ranks as one of the best books I have read this year for the story telling and quality, but by far the most abrupt ending.

I am surprised no one commented about me reading The Wonderful Wizard of Oz right after finishing this when I posted in the "what are you reading" thread.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:42 AM   #4
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I thought the ending had a distinct taste of The Lady or the Tiger. I enjoyed the journey, but it was a long way to travel for an inconclusive finale.
My sentiments exactly, so I went straight into the next one. That answered enough questions for me that I don't feel compelled to continue on with the series.
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Old 06-20-2014, 01:00 PM   #5
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I thought the ending had a distinct taste of The Lady or the Tiger. I enjoyed the journey, but it was a long way to travel for an inconclusive finale.
That's why you should read The Fall of Hyperion.

The other sequels are inessential.
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:28 PM   #6
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I really enjoyed this book although I would echo some of the comments about the lack of resolve at the end. In some ways it felt like reading a huge chapter 1.

The individual stories were all really engrossing and very imaginative. Rachel's drew me in the most and the writing in her story was brilliant.
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:49 AM   #7
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I really enjoyed this book. At first I was a bit annoyed when it was obviously going to be nothing but back-story and only a tiny bit of plot (in the present), but I really started getting involved in this mini-histories.

Like others, Rachel's story really got to me. It was such a fantastic story.

But there's a lot to this novel that left feeling inadequate that I couldn't put the pieces together. We have several characters of different types - the P.I., the soldier, the diplomat, the priest, the poet, the scholar and the templar (not sure where he fits really). As I was reading the stories, I was thinking about the religion tie-in during the priest's tale - the evidence of an ancient Christian religion and its relationship with the Shrike. During the poet's tale, I was thinking about art as a form of creation - poetry creating the muse who is inspiring the poetry. Rachel's story has a strong link to the story of Abraham in the Bible and it's message of sacrifice to save a people at a time when the people look like they're approaching an end. The Consul gives us an interesting angle on humanity - the expansion and digestion of simpler and happier cultures - a form of history repeating. The P.I. creating another link between poetry/art and what is to come while exploring a more cyberpunk angle, with the entertaining Bogart-esque noir feel.

I felt like Simmons was saying something I just wasn't hearing clearly enough, but it was tantalising all the same.

OK - the abrupt end was painful and I'll have to find time to read the second book before too long to see if I can follow where Simmons is leading me. But besides that problem, I remained entertained for the duration.
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:41 PM   #8
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I thought the book was good, in spite of my complaints with it.

I liked that the author was interested in weaving philosophy and poetry into the book, but I think he did it in a sort of scattered, overstuffed and somewhat immature way. The book was also packed with all kinds of genres and plots and themes and twists, and I think it was a bit much; it was all rather jumbled and at points it came off as silly. He threw in everything including the kitchen sink, or in this case the metallic vagina dentata.

I also thought the characters were mostly immature in a consistent sort of way and rather broad and weakly drawn for something so immersive and character-dependent.

And finally, I wasn't a fan of horror being intertwined into almost every story. I don’t like out-of-the-blue horror, and the first story was especially jarring.

Despite all of these considerable objections, I couldn't help but like most of the stories overall and think how imaginative and vivid it all was. I may eventually read the second to find out what happens and as advised quit the series after that.

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Old 06-29-2014, 06:17 AM   #9
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I liked that the author was interested in weaving philosophy and poetry into the book, but I think he did it in a sort of scattered, overstuffed and somewhat immature way. The book was also packed with all kinds of genres and plots and themes and twists, and I think it was a bit much; it was all rather jumbled and at points it came off as silly.
Well that's definitely a different perspective. I just assumed that I wasn't cluey enough to "get it", but maybe it was just a happy jumble.
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Gah, a cliff-hanger! I didn't really get into the book until Rachel's story, it was indeed fantastic. Looking at the page count nearing the end, I had no idea how the story would be resolved in time. And of course it wasn't. I had a hard time understanding what the Hegemony really is, along with the All-Thing. I enjoyed the Consul's story which seemed to have the loudest message. I don't know yet if I will continue on to the next one. I feel I have enough time invested to need to know how the story ends, but cliff-hangers really annoy me. I wish it had been made clearer - maybe a "Part 1" on the cover?
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:31 PM   #11
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I'd like to thank everyone who posted for the heads up about needing to read at least one more book to find out how some things get resolved. I hate when one large book is split into pieces with cliffhangers between them.
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