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Old 05-28-2014, 05:29 AM   #841
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L-förmige Bilder

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an alle Buchmacher von einem Anfänger dieser Kunst mit einem großen Problem.

Ich hatte hier schon mal mein Problem - ich möchte L-förmige Bilder (auch horizontal gespiegelt) von Text umfließen lassen oder wenigstens den freien Bereich - geschildert und auch erste Hinweise bekommen.
Doitsu hat dann auch im engischen Forum etwas gefunden was passen sollte.
Ich habs probiert, und das L funktionierte (mit ein paar Maßändereungen) in sigil. Das rechte L fällt leider aus dem Rahmen, da das Bild in den aufrechten Bildbereich angepasst wird und nach rechts aus dem Textbereich rutscht.
Im angehängten Beispiel-epub ist ersichtlich was ich meine.
Aber!... im Kindlepreviewer und in ADE funktioniert das nicht (sollte es aber laut Doitsu).
Ist in meinem stylesheet etwas was stört?
mmat1 meint, daß ich mich da an was ganz kompliziertes rangewagt habe. Aber so selten sind solche Bilder gar nicht, ich hab einige Bücher mit solchen Bildern. Das auf Kopf stehende L finde ich bei meinen weit seltener.

Ich würde mich freuen, wenn ihr mir helfen könnt und wünsche noch einen angenehmen Feiertag (hoffentlich wird das Wetter noch etwas besser).

Gruß, fromgdr
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:22 AM   #842
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Lies mal diesen Teil im Planungs-Thread nach, und zwar von #239 bis #264.
Ich hatte bei der Illustrierung von Robert Kraft, Nobody 1, ähnliche Probleme. Es geht eben in html nicht alles, und schon gar nicht in ePub.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:33 AM   #843
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Ein Hallo
an alle Buchmacher von einem Anfänger dieser Kunst mit einem großen Problem.
...

mmat1 meint, daß ich mich da an was ganz kompliziertes rangewagt habe.

...
Nachdem ich mich aufgrund deiner Anfrage mal wieder mit dem Problem auseinandergesetzt hatte, komme ich zu dem Ergebnis, das die größte Schwierigkeit darin besteht, eine Methode zu finden, die überall funktioniert.

Das Einbinden der Bilder, so das es in Sigil und Co. gut aussieht, ist an sich kein Hexenwerk.

Aber es soll ja auch mit Kindel (Konverter), iBooks, ADE und den diversen anderen Readerplattformen genau so gut funktioniert.

Im Ergebnis: Es ist eine Gradwanderung, was heute funktioniert, kann morgen schon schiefgehen (z.B. zeigte die alte ADE-Version ein anderes Verhalten als die aktuelle !!!).

Ich kann nur empfehlen, es zu lassen. (Was ich übrigens bei meinem aktuellen Projekt auch getan habe, obwohl gerade bei diesem Buch ein umfließender Text sehr schön gewesen wäre).
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:31 AM   #844
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Schließe mich an. Manches muss man sich bei E-Books einfach verkneifen. Von der schwankenden Darstellung mal abgesehen gibt es bei solch umflossenen Bildern auch noch das Problem, dass bei der geringen Größe von Readerbildschirmen solche schmalen Textspalten meistens löchrich zerfetzt aussehen, der Gesamteindruck also gar nicht mehr dekorativ ist.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:32 PM   #845
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... auch noch das Problem, dass bei der geringen Größe von Readerbildschirmen solche schmalen Textspalten meistens löchrich zerfetzt aussehen, der Gesamteindruck also gar nicht mehr dekorativ ist.
Das liegt ja in der Hand des Buchmachers: entweder Bild verkleinern, wenn die Ästhetik es zulässt bzw. die Erkennbarkeit nicht leidet, oder gleich auf {width=100%} vergrößern. Man muss der Vorlage für das eBook bestimmt nicht sklavisch folgen.
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:35 PM   #846
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Wenn ich euch jetzt richtig verstanden habe, habt ihr mir empfohlen die Bilder ganz normal einzubauen.
Naja, jedenfalls hab ich das nun gemacht.
Mal sehen wie sich die Sache entwickelt, vielleicht wird es ja später doch noch möglich.

Da ich noch Anfänger bin, werdet ihr sicher noch von mir hören und mir dann besser helfen können

Ich bedanke mich jedenfalls für eure (fast) Hilfe.

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Old 06-03-2014, 09:44 AM   #847
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Wenn ich euch jetzt richtig verstanden habe, habt ihr mir empfohlen die Bilder ganz normal einzubauen.
Naja, jedenfalls hab ich das nun gemacht.
Ja, so würd ich das auch verstehen

Wenn du dir mal den "Ewigen Juden Band 1" anguckst, dann wirst du sehen wie ich da mit dem Problem umgegangen bin. Es ist mir sehr schwer gefallen, auf den umfließenden Text zu verzichten, aber ich bleib dabei: es ist für viele potentielle Leser wahrscheinlich das bessere Ergebnis.

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Mal sehen wie sich die Sache entwickelt, vielleicht wird es ja später doch noch möglich.
Richtig !
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Ja, ich hoffe, er kommt auch wirklich wieder. Und hoffentlich mit soviel Energie wie der gute JSWolf, der gerade anscheinend versucht, innerhalb von ein paar Tagen alles zu posten, was sich in ihm während seiner Suspendierung angestaut hat.
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Also, laut seiner Profilseite ist der gute medard nicht mehr suspendiert. Allerdings hat er MR noch nicht durch seine Anwesenheit geehrt. Komm schon, medard, pynch hat Kuchen versprochen!

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Ja wirklich, medard, wo steckst du? Ich lasse die Torte schon extra länger im Ofen und bestreiche sie regelmäßig mit dem Bratenfett, damit sie noch warm auf den Tisch kommt. Aber wenn man das zu lange macht, verliert das eingebackene Koks irgendwann seine Wirkung.
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