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Old 02-25-2014, 04:24 PM   #1
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Sigil issue or iBooks issue?

This is probably iBooks but I've never had this problem before:

I imported an HTML Word file into Sigil and after getting rid of all the extraneous coding, splitting my chapters up, making everything look nice and pretty and organizing my files in order, once I opened it in iBooks, it doesn't open at the titlepage but 3 sections past to the dedication. I checked all the coding and there are no strange links that would cause that and I've never had an issue with this happening in any of my purchased books from iTunes, just this one file.

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Old 02-25-2014, 08:35 PM   #2
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This is probably iBooks but I've never had this problem before:

I imported an HTML Word file into Sigil and after getting rid of all the extraneous coding, splitting my chapters up, making everything look nice and pretty and organizing my files in order, once I opened it in iBooks, it doesn't open at the titlepage but 3 sections past to the dedication. I checked all the coding and there are no strange links that would cause that and I've never had an issue with this happening in any of my purchased books from iTunes, just this one file.

Any ideas or suggestions?
Could you post your opf file? A simple copy/paste would do. I would suspect the issue lies there.
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Here you go:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<package xmlns="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf" unique-identifier="uuid_id" version="2.0">
<metadata xmlns:calibre="http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/2009/metadata" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:dcterms="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" xmlnspf="http://www.idpf.org/2007/opf" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<dc:identifier id="uuid_id" opf:scheme="uuid">869ee44d-ed17-4f0a-b8ea-0e63c1ad20ae</dc:identifier>
<dc:language>en</dc:language>
<dc:date opf:event="modification">2014-02-28</dc:date>
<meta content="2014-02-24T01:17:18.252466+00:00" name="calibre:timestamp" />
<meta name="cover" content="cover.jpg" />
<meta content="0.7.4" name="Sigil version" />
</metadata>
<manifest>
<item href="Styles/page_styles.css" id="page_css" media-type="text/css" />
<item href="Styles/stylesheet.css" id="css" media-type="text/css" />
<item href="toc.ncx" id="ncx" media-type="application/x-dtbncx+xml" />
<item href="Text/cover.html" id="cover.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Images/cover.jpg" id="cover.jpg" media-type="image/jpeg" />
<item href="Text/reviews.html" id="reviews.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/booklist.html" id="booklist.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/copyright.html" id="copyright.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/dedication.html" id="dedication.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter1.html" id="chapter1.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter2.html" id="chapter2.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter3.html" id="chapter3.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter4.html" id="chapter4.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter5.html" id="chapter5.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter6.html" id="chapter6.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter7.html" id="chapter7.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter8.html" id="chapter8.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter9.html" id="chapter9.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter10.html" id="chapter10.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter11.html" id="chapter11.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter12.html" id="chapter12.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter13.html" id="chapter13.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter14.html" id="chapter14.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter15.html" id="chapter15.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter16.html" id="chapter16.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter17.html" id="chapter17.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter18.html" id="chapter18.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter19.html" id="chapter19.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter20.html" id="chapter20.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter21.html" id="chapter21.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter22.html" id="chapter22.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter23.html" id="chapter23.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter24.html" id="chapter24.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter25.html" id="chapter25.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter26.html" id="chapter26.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Text/chapter27.html" id="chapter27.html" media-type="application/xhtml+xml" />
<item href="Images/divider.jpg" id="divider.jpg" media-type="image/jpeg" />
</manifest>
<spine toc="ncx">
<itemref idref="cover.html" />
<itemref idref="copyright.html" />
<itemref idref="dedication.html" />
<itemref idref="reviews.html" />
<itemref idref="booklist.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter1.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter2.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter3.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter4.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter5.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter6.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter7.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter8.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter9.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter10.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter11.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter12.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter13.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter14.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter15.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter16.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter17.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter18.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter19.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter20.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter21.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter22.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter23.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter24.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter25.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter26.html" />
<itemref idref="chapter27.html" />
</spine>
<guide>
<reference href="Text/cover.html" title="Cover" type="cover" />
<reference href="Text/copyright.html" title="Copyright Page" type="copyright-page" />
<reference href="Text/dedication.html" title="Dedication" type="dedication" />
</guide>
</package>

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Old 02-28-2014, 01:16 PM   #4
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Well, I really don't see anything that seems like it should make any difference. However, I have noticed that, for most readers, the semantics that you can add for most html files within the epub, rarely serve any purpose and can on rare occasion cause problems. The only semantics I've seen that are in any way useful are cover and toc.

Just to rule it out, remove line 87 of your opf, the one that references dedication.html as the dedication page. After removing this line, save your epub and try again and see if anything changes and let us know.

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Old 02-28-2014, 02:30 PM   #5
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iBooks will open to what it finds as the first "text" page unless directed otherwise so it opens to the Dedication as that is what it believes is the first. You can change it by using the type="other.reader-start-page" option in the guide section. Though I believe that is specific to iBooks. So if you want iBooks to open on the cover you could change the cover type.
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One more semantic that is useful is type="Text", it tells the Kindle where to start when first opening the book.
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One more semantic that is useful is type="Text", it tells the Kindle where to start when first opening the book.
Yes, this is true, but, since Sigil is an epub editior, and not a mobi editor, I forgot about that. I used to use that one quite a bit too when I had a K3 and I used Sigil for editing before converting to mobi.
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Yes, this is true, but, since Sigil is an epub editior, and not a mobi editor, I forgot about that. I used to use that one quite a bit too when I had a K3 and I used Sigil for editing before converting to mobi.
Well, as "text" is actually the ePUB attribute for "start reading here," adopted by MOBI in lieu of the "start," anchor/bookmark, it may solve your page-opening issue as well. Can you try it and let us know if it solves your problem?

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Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy Hitch. That's what I was planning to eventually get at after looking at the OP's opf file. However, changing this seemed to make no difference whatsoever in any of my epubs when looking at them with ADE, so I didn't suggest it. I thought maybe that I'd dreamed that. Obviously I didn't, though I'm still not sure why ADE doesn't recognize this tag.
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Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy Hitch. That's what I was planning to eventually get at after looking at the OP's opf file. However, changing this seemed to make no difference whatsoever in any of my epubs when looking at them with ADE, so I didn't suggest it. I thought maybe that I'd dreamed that. Obviously I didn't, though I'm still not sure why ADE doesn't recognize this tag.
Because the dream of the EPUB standard is a myth, and every vendor basically supports what they feel like supporting?
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Because the dream of the EPUB standard is a myth, and every vendor basically supports what they feel like supporting?
The standard is not a myth, but it is manhandled by the different vendors. Some more than others...
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So that makes it an unobserved standard, or sub-standard standard?
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So that makes it an unobserved standard, or sub-standard standard?
No... Just a typical standard.
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Usually standards are a super-set because the Standard did not support 'x'

IEEE488=>HPIB (in this case, the standard, was made AFTERWARDS)
How many extensions of BASIC were there? Pascal? Fortran? (those I have used)

'EPUB' versions seem to leave out big chunks or fail to do them properly.
Some you might blame on being part of the first generation e-books. But by EPUB2, those should have dwindled to a tiny-tiny list.
not so
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