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Old 10-24-2008, 04:44 AM   #1
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Having pre-ordered a PRS 700 I have decided to auction my old reader on eBay. My question is: Can I legally sell it with my library of books in memory? The majority are Connect purchased best sellers complete with DRM.

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Old 10-24-2008, 04:48 AM   #2
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I believe that the answer is "no". The books are not transferrable to a different person, unless you transfer your entire Connect account to that person.
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To say nothing of the fact that the reader should be de-registered from your account or the new purchaser may not be able to register it in their own name and account. Once that happens, your connect books may not work anyway.

When the 700 comes (we're down to 3 weeks if the shipping date is accurate on the Sony web-site) you'll register that with your Connect account and all your books will become available again.
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When the 700 comes (we're down to 3 weeks if the shipping date is accurate on the Sony web-site)
Let's hope it is accurate. Borders has the PRS-700 listed as well with a release date of Dec 2nd.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:14 AM   #5
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When you register a 500 or 505 to a different account, any books from the eBookstore purchased with the previous account will no longer work as the DRM will not allow them to.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:42 AM   #6
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.....to continue the discussion: Even if it was legal, the way Sony works all this is that the Reader needs to be de-registered.

Failing to de-register a Reader means that it is still on your Account, and there only a fixed number of devices (Reader; Computer) that you can have. You will WANT to de-register that Reader if you let go.

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Thanks for the informed answers. Seems like a bit of a con though. if I buy a paper back book I can legally sell it on if I remove the cover. Don't know the law on hard back books.

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Thanks for the informed answers. Seems like a bit of a con though. if I buy a paper back book I can legally sell it on if I remove the cover. Don't know the law on hard back books.

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If that's true, then why does the first page of a book say something to the effect of "If the cover is missing, this book was stolen"?
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When you sell a physical book, you sell the book completely. When you sell an eBook, you can (in most cases) still have access to download another copy or actually keep a copy. So there is no way to guarantee you've actually sold the eBook and no longer have any access to it.
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If that's true, then why does the first page of a book say something to the effect of "If the cover is missing, this book was stolen"?
Because when a book is remaindered, the cover is taken off and any book without a cover is not to be sold. So the only way to get it is to get it illegally.
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If that's true, then why does the first page of a book say something to the effect of "If the cover is missing, this book was stolen"?
Probably because if a shop have sent back the cover and got the money in exchange for them destroying the book the the shop have stolen it. But that does not hold for ordinary customs.
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When you sell a physical book, you sell the book completely. When you sell an eBook, you can (in most cases) still have access to download another copy or actually keep a copy. So there is no way to guarantee you've actually sold the eBook and no longer have any access to it.
And you could have made a photocopy of the physical book. So what?
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Thanks for the informed answers. Seems like a bit of a con though. if I buy a paper back book I can legally sell it on if I remove the cover. Don't know the law on hard back books.

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If you are selling a used book, you don't need to remove the cover. THe whole issue of removed covers actual comes back into the illegal area. When a book store (or other retailer) can't sell a book, they will commonly rip the front covers off and return them to the distributor who will then credit their account. At this point, the retailer is supposed to throw them away or recycle the books. This is commonly called stripping the books. The main reasoning for this is to save on shipping unsold books back and forth. Some smaller retailers (and some not smaller) will sell them at a super discount or give them away. At this point, they are committing fraud by claiming the books were destroyed and then sold them. Some book publishers do not support the stripping of books and require that the unsold copies be returned to them so they can be resold through other outlets.

When I was a kid, my dad worked for Montgomery Ward and they had a book section. Every week or so, I would get to go look through the boxes of books that stripped and take what I wanted for like 25¢ each. I am very grateful for this since we had very little money when I was growing up, so it let me read more and not have to make trips to the library (which I pretty much lived at).

I know there was a company I worked for the did a similar thing with magazines. They cut the top couple inches off the covers and sent them back for credit. Then the stripped magazines went in the staff lounge.

This is not an issue with ebooks, of course, since there is no physical book to resale ala used books stores. Just one of the concessions you make to purchasing a non-physical item. You don't actually own anything more than a copy of specialized code.

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And you could have made a photocopy of the physical book. So what?
True you could have. But most people won't have. Odds are a lot greater of a copy of the eBook kept then the pBook copied.
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Thanks for the informed answers. Seems like a bit of a con though.
And another person discovers the "joys" of DRM.
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