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Old 12-03-2013, 02:37 AM   #121
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Es gibt wohl angeblich Leute, die "Effi Briest" gut finden. Ich gehöre aber nicht dazu. Von Fontane würde ich da eher sein Spätwerk "Der Stechlin" empfehlen.
"Effi Briest" erschien 1896, "Der Stechlin" 1899.
Fontante starb 1898.

Weshalb soll "Der Stechlin" im Hinblick auf "Effi Briest" ein Spätwerk sein?
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:09 AM   #122
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Weil Fontane es posthum geschrieben hat?
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Weshalb soll "Der Stechlin" im Hinblick auf "Effi Briest" ein Spätwerk sein?
Das war von mir ein wenig unglücklich formuliert. Den "Stechlin" habe ich als DAS Spätwerk Fontanes kennengelernt, und so hatte ich das auch gemeint, unabhängig davon, wie viel später als "Effi Briest" er geschrieben oder verlegt wurde.
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Weil Fontane es posthum geschrieben hat?
Genau! Die Szene, wie er das Manuskript aus seinem Grab herausreicht, ist auch auf der Fotografie, die ich gerade gefunden habe, sehr schön festgehalten.

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Old 12-03-2013, 09:34 AM   #125
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Sensationell! Wie man am üppigen Grün sehen kann, liegt er da halt einfach in ganz hervorragendem Posthumus.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #126
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Ist das Grabmal ein Vorbild oder Nachbild vom E-Book?
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:26 PM   #127
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Tja, wenn man sich nur sicher sein könnte, dass die Zeit linear verläuft...
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...Die Szene, wie er das Manuskript aus seinem Grab herausreicht...
... womit bewiesen ist, dass die beste Literatur immer untoter Provenienz ist (es ist übrigens mit Sicherheit "Effi Briest", wenn ich den Umschlag nicht falsch entziffere; Fonty hat da ein paar Korrekturen angebracht und alle "langweiligen Landschaftsbeschreibungen" rausgeschmissen - allerdings scheint es nicht, dass irgendein Verleger von dieser Fassung etwas wissen wollte).

Ich hoffe doch, dass dies jetzt Spinnis Heiligentheorie nicht zu sehr widerspricht (denn immerhin ist das hier ja "Spinnis kleines Klassenzimmer"): wo werden nach der noch mal die Bücher gemacht?
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Spinnis Heiligentheorie?
Liebe Engel, Spinni hat wieder gute Ideen.
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Spinnis Heiligentheorie?
Liebe Engel, Spinni hat wieder gute Ideen.
Wieso nicht "Heiligentheorie" oder auch "Himmels- und Engeltheorie"? Wer sonst im Forum hätte ein solche?

Und welche "guten Ideen" hast du?
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Wieso nicht "Heiligentheorie" oder auch "Himmels- und Engeltheorie"? Wer sonst im Forum hätte ein solche?

Und welche "guten Ideen" hast du?
Ich scheue mich, sie zu verkündigen, sonst bekomme ich wieder eine Reihe der Ausrufezeichen.
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Ich scheue mich, sie zu verkündigen, sonst bekomme ich wieder eine Reihe der Ausrufezeichen.
Ausrufezeichen sind schließlich keine unsittlichen Angebote.
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Ich lese momentan Effi Briest. Es gibt einen Satz auf Seite 38 von dieser Ausgabe, den ich sonderbar finde.

"als sie wie gewöhnlich in Front des Seitenflügels mit Effi am Arbeitstische saß, auf dem die Leinen- und Wäschevorräte beständig wuchsen, während der Zeitungen, die bloß Platz wegnahmen, immer wenige wurden.

Warum "der" nicht "die"?
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"als sie wie gewöhnlich in Front des Seitenflügels mit Effi am Arbeitstische saß, auf dem die Leinen- und Wäschevorräte beständig wuchsen, während der Zeitungen, die bloß Platz wegnahmen, immer wenige wurden.

Warum "der" nicht "die"?
Das ist ein mittlerweile veralteter Gebrauch des Genitivs mit "weniger werden".

Wenn Du den Satz umstellst, wird er vielleicht etwas klarer:

Es wurden der Zeitungen immer weniger.
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Das ist ein mittlerweile veralteter Gebrauch des Genitivs mit "weniger werden".

Wenn Du den Satz umstellst, wird er vielleicht etwas klarer:

Es wurden der Zeitungen immer weniger.
Danke sehr Doitsu, das ist etwas ganz neues für mich.
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